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Shadow of the Eternals -- THIS CAN'T... BE... HAPPENING! (white flash)
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Then wait. Wait till the game is out and then buy it if people say it's good.
Do not do what some people seem to be doing and that is giving a fucking penny to Denis Dyack before there is a game. I cannot stress this enough.
I pronounce it bee-log.
Don't forget to mention the X-Men Destiny debacle, where they were basically stealing money from Activision and hoping no one noticed.
I pronounce it bee-log.
He says this is what, 12 episodes?
So it looks like this isn't the price for the project, but for 1/12th of the project.
If the first breaks even, no one loses out. If it succeeds, they fund future development.
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That's my plan!
Hm
This first demo level seems to be a remake of Anthony's level, at the start
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I loved Eternal Darkness.
I hate Kotaku.
Still, based on that article I don't think I can donate to this in good conscience.
This has since been updated. Fail = refund.
Gaming Unplugged columnist and video game reviewer at Snackbar Games
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Actually that isn't quite what they said...
Note they say "if it becomes apparent that we cannot raise enough to develop this project" and not "if we don't manage to hit our funding goal"
There is no definition of what they consider not enough to develop the project.
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We needed 10% every 3 days to be on track.
Without some kind of backer swell, this is dead in the water and will only hit ~65% by Day 30.
Ffffuuuuuu
Note: My biggest worry for this not succeeding is Nintendo noticing and thinking that the hate for Dyack is the same as dislike of the franchise and will never make a new Eternal Darkness based on its failure.
Well, it would. The Cathedral is what Dyack pulled people off of X-Men: Destiny for when he still had hopes of shopping around Eternal Darkness 2. I'm not surprised they got something ready for that area.
True, but I would assume there's a difference between them hitting 1.3 million and them hitting, say, .6 million. Actual limits would have been nice, yes.
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Well it's only going to be one episode if they hit their goal without landing a stretch, which makes the tiered rewards already including 11 stretch goals kind of funny.
I don't think that's what's happening here
I think Dyack is literally infamous enough that he's killed a project people - at least some - are absolutely rabid about, just by association.
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Good point. You can see the monsters from the trailer in this post examining SK's downfall under the presumed ED2 concept art.
The SotE presentation has been pretty grand.
It had a countdown. It was talked about in blogs and gaming news sites.
IGN had an exclusive trailer.
The website looks good. There's a ton of polish all around, but because Dyack is onboard it is going to fail.
That might be where some of the ambiguous wiggle room on "meeting our goal" vs "we can still develop this" comes from.
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With this sort of thing, reputation is everything. Shadowrun Returns didn't get funding because people just wanted Shadowrun, it was because of the people onboard for it. Star Citizen didn't get massive funding because people wanted a space sim, it was because it's a space sim getting made by the premiere names in making space sims. Wasteland 2 got funded almost thirty years after the original because the people involved worked on the original and were the progenitors of the Fallout series.
Conversely, Dyack is a two-bit scumbag and everybody knows it. Even knowing he's associated with the project would hurt it, but the scummy funding approach and Dyack as the front man is basically a death sentence. Why would anybody want to give somebody like that to make anything, especially when he very clearly has a reputation of not delivering?
Please note I've erased some parts of it in order to maintain the identity of the person I was talking to secret.
I've seen a lot of posters around here that I'd like to dissuade, but at the end of the day it's people's money and they are allowed to do what they want. I don't think this Kickstarter is going to stop Nintendo from making another ED game (because I'm still holding out hope that it's what Retro is working on next), but it's probably not going to get traction anyways. Having to recall all your product and destroy it due to lawsuit will stop most people from trusting your creative output.
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7 days in and it isn't even 10% funded yet.
Most crowdfunding things need a huge boost at the beginning to show that there is even hope for the project and this is showing that they'll be lucky if they hit 50% funded by June.
I never said I was banned. Plus, I never shat all over the project, nor did I tell people not to fund the game. All I did was try to tell people to think a bit over things instead of acting out of sheer blind passion for something that should be doubted. And though I'm no Dyack fan, for sure, there are several other issues, here, that should make people think twice before donating:
The fact it's an episodic game and the whopping $1,500,000 they're asking only goes to fund the pilot episode, while promising pledgers in high tiers a whole season of the game (what happens to those guys if, say, only two episodes get funded?).
The so-called "innovation" of having a community participating directly in what will be the in-game content (I'm sure all of you have read or listened to preposterous suggestions by fans of this or that game; now imagine a community of juvenile, passionate-but-not-necessarily-clever people making the game with the developers, and getting mad because they paid and, therefore, are entitled to have their say).
The vagueness surrounding their refund policy.
The fact they avoid answering direct, more difficult questions, basically arguing we "should look into the future and stop dwelling in past mistakes" (from where I'm standing, the only way to look into the future with any chance of succeeding, even when it comes to small things, is to learn something from your past mistakes, not by avoiding them altogether) and that we should take a look at their (admittedly lacking) Crowdfund Campaign Update #1.
And more, but mostly these aspects, if one is to ignore the whole Dyack thing -- which I advise doing to a degree, but never to overlook it.
If they hit $750k I'm guessing there's not going to be refunds.
Personally I'm just wondering what these seven people were thinking:
There's a lot of limited vs unlimited tier nonsense going on there that I don't understand.
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As to those 'Sane Supporter' options...isn't the whole point of funding this to get, um, all twelve episodes? If I was a crueler man I'd almost say it looks like the special tiers are getting shortchanged or something.
In other words, your faith in believing they'll hit eleven nebulous stretch goals after $1.5m and/or find other sources of funding to make an entire season.
That's....a little weird.
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Still... at least with Kickstarter people will be able to get their money back in the increasingly likely event the funding goal isn't reached.
Also, by the end of day 1, the Kickstarter is failing just as hard. The major problem with this was never the crowd funding system, and they're stubbornly still avoiding it.
The whole thing doesn't give me a lot of faith in their project management, but now I hope it gets funded (...by other people) and we can see if there really will be a worthy successor to ED.
(By the way, seeing the silhouettes on their KS page again makes me wonder: do they even have the rights to Alex and Pious? I know they bought art assets but I don't know if extends that far. Despite apparently working with Nintendo since it's going for Wii U, an interview mentioned that Nintendo had the sanity meter patented and they were thinking of ways to replicate without infringing.)
Dyack does not deserve your money, it has been a full ten years since he has been responsible for anything even remotely decent and at that point he had Nintendo looking over his shoulder.
The man has no sense of project scope, it would be like giving your money to George Broussard to maybe develop an FPS sometime in the future possibly.
Good.
Good.
Sometimes my faith in people is not completely undeserved.
(Not including Denis Dyack in those people)
You're a crook, Captain Hook, Judge, won't you throw the book at the pirate!
Only Dyack can make me agree with UV
(love you UV)