Forum Dice Roller Testing & Development Extravaganza Thread?

Infidel

Per suggestion of @Denada

@IcyLiquid added a dice roller to Geth, this thread is for testing, suggestions, questions, and bug reports.

Dice Expression Help

Geth roll 1d20

Geth

/me rolls 1d20 -> 10 (sum:10)

Infidel

Average thread.

Roll for swiss.

Sample Rolls

You can roll multiple times in one post. When Geth rolls, the result is fixed, and editing the post will not trigger the removal/addition/rerolling of any results. If no rolls have been made, and you edit in a roll, then results will be added to the post.

Geth roll 1d20+6;2d6+2
Geth roll "1d10 1d10 1d8 1d6" for Marvel HRP
Geth roll 4xM for Day 1 Source
Minion roll 1d20 for alternate name

gtrmp

Geth roll 1d2+6 1d1-1 1d1-2

Geth

/me rolls 1d2(+6) -> 7 (sum:7)

gtrmp

well that's a new error message

Denada

You're alright, Infy. ;-)

Let me contribute by posting in a typical player turn from a game, to see what happens:

Move to H12
Minor: Blackfire 'Port vs Legionary 1 Fort
Geth roll 1d20+10 1d10
Teleport to J13
Standard: Machine Grip vs Legionary 1 Reflex
Geth roll 1d20+9 1d10+15

Geth

/me rolls 1d20(+10) -> 23 (sum:23)

tastydonuts

Interesting.

You'd probably want to combine those or separate into semicolons?

Geth roll 1d20+10;1d10;1d20+0;1d10+15

edit: It looks like it only takes the first roll in the post.

Geth

/me rolls 1d20(+10) -> 15 (sum:15)

OminousLozenge

No, you can do multiple rolls. It just needs a space, rather than a semicolon.

Geth roll 1d1+2 1d9-3

Geth

/me rolls 1d1(+2) -> 3 (sum:3)

OminousLozenge

Or not. It was taking multi-roll input earlier!

IcyLiquid

and quotes.

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hm, I'm noticing the comment body is hanging off the right side

IcyLiquid

Yeah I have some output formatting to fix. Its on the list.

tastydonuts

Like so?

Geth roll "1d20+10" "1d10" "1d20+10" "1d10+15"

Geth

/me rolls 1d20(+10) -> 21 (sum:21)

tastydonuts

Or this:

Geth roll "1d20+10 1d10 1d20+10 1d10+15"

tastydonuts

What's the timer between rolls? And does it try to reroll if a poster edits their post?

edit: also a suggestion: can the person that initiated the call for the roll be included in the post that geth makes?

End

I think maybe he means geth was previously pulling rolls from other people's quoted text?

IcyLiquid

Geth roll "1d20+10 1d10 1d20+10 1d10+15"

Geth

/me rolls 1d20(+10) -> 23 (sum:23), 1d10 -> 7 (sum:7), 1d20(+10) -> 22 (sum:22), 1d10(+15) -> 22 (sum:22)

Magus`

Geth roll 20d20

Geth

/me rolls 10d20 -> 6,3,15,4,3,3,11,3,8,11 (sum:67)

Khildith

IcyLiquid wrote: »

Geth roll "1d20+10 1d10 1d20+10 1d10+15"

Testing to see if Geth will roll off quoted posts.

Geth

/me rolls 1d20(+10) -> 21 (sum:21), 1d10 -> 6 (sum:6), 1d20(+10) -> 15 (sum:15), 1d10(+15) -> 25 (sum:25)

tastydonuts

Editing a post that has a roll in it seems to retrigger the roll.

I went back and edited my post from 1:19 and it fired. It didn't do it the first time because I guess I was in the cooldown between rolls?

EvilBadman

Geth roll "1d6+1d4"

Testing die + die rolls, of different sides.

Geth

/me rolls 1d6(+1) -> 2 (sum:2)

Geth

/me rolls 1d6(+1) -> 4 (sum:4)

EvilBadman

Hrm, I don't think different die rolls added to each other comes up often, but there's a hang up.

Two minor suggestions:
1. Have Geth report whose roll it's doing in post and/or name rolls and have those names report.
2. Nontraditional dice rolling. i.e. Small World uses a reinforcement die that is 6 sided, with 3 blanks, a 1, a 2, and a 3.

Infidel

The rolling syntax will be getting updated, but I'm more curious about the best approach for other things.

Like how editing of posts should be handled, any feedback there? Obviously it shouldn't reroll a simple edit but what about if you replace the contents entirely?

My thought is that to keep things feasible, it would have to just ignore edits. Kinda like @Infidel type notices, if you edit them it won't change anything. Nothing done previously is invalidated, and nothing edited in is acted upon.

The dice requested would be there even if someone edited out their post so I don't think dishonesty could be easily abused. In theory though it could be, for example I could make a post saying "attack with Big Uber Daily power" and if the 1d20 attack roll and damage roll are the same I could edit in "attack with At-Will power" and woops, guess I missed! (But didn't use up my daily cause I saw the result and edited quickly.)

This is why there is a roll description available on Orokos, so that a host can use it if they wish to track the intentions of the rolls in addition to the rolls themselves. It's also how the IRC bot works, it lets you tag a description and then puts that description and the roller's name into the result so it is clear what was rolled for what. A description could potentially be added?

DevoutlyApathetic

A description would be nice but even just having Geth make a note that the triggering post was edited would work. Then we all glare at the offender and tell them to not do that with posts involving rolls.

Infidel

Icy and I are discussing actually having the roll attached to the post instead of as a reply.

I think in your suggestion it is fine to have an edit (and in theory, abuse) but you don't want the edit to reroll right? Cause that would be problematic since the original dice would be lost and such...

tastydonuts

Not quite sure how you'd determine how much of an edit is a heavy one? I'd suggest that if it's an edit on a post that it already rolled for it should ignore it. But if a user edits in a roll on their post it shouldn't?

Including a description or what user that the die is being rolled for would be nice.

Infidel

That's why I think the simpler solution of "only rolls as posted" will need to be done. Simplest and probably the easiest to understand.

DevoutlyApathetic

Infidel wrote: »

Icy and I are discussing actually having the roll attached to the post instead of as a reply.

I think in your suggestion it is fine to have an edit (and in theory, abuse) but you don't want the edit to reroll right? Cause that would be problematic since the original dice would be lost and such...

I think the rolls sticking around regardless is important, part of the whole reason for a system like this is we want a certain threshold of trust.

If you put the rolls in the post, which is great, you need to make sure they're not spoof-able with user accessible text formatting.

IcyLiquid

DevoutlyApathetic wrote: »

Infidel wrote: »

Icy and I are discussing actually having the roll attached to the post instead of as a reply.

I think in your suggestion it is fine to have an edit (and in theory, abuse) but you don't want the edit to reroll right? Cause that would be problematic since the original dice would be lost and such...

I think the rolls sticking around regardless is important, part of the whole reason for a system like this is we want a certain threshold of trust.

If you put the rolls in the post, which is great, you need to make sure they're not spoof-able with user accessible text formatting.

This should be very easy, but yes I agree.

Mr_Rose

How about letting thread starters (typically the DM) view edits made to posts in their threads with rolls attached?

Denada

I just want to mention how happy I am that you guys are working on this. I've been dreaming of an in-forum roller pretty much since I started PbPing here, which was like five years ago.