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Iron Thread 3: Out Now! [Iron Man 3] (Use SPOILER Tags!)
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I very much got the sense that at any particular moment he was thinking "What is the most cliche, straightforward thing I could do here?" and then he absolutely refused to do it.
I can see why this would piss a lot of people off, but I thought it was glorious and I loved it.
heh
There is a post release interview where Shane black says literally that. I will post it when I get home from work.
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Probably enjoyed it more than Iron Man 1, if i'm adjusting for nostalgia the correct amount.
Just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
Shane Black discussing Iron Man 3 after release
Relevant quotes
Black and co-writer Drew Pearce proposed this argument in favor of The Mandarin twist: “What if he’s sort of this all-things-to-all-people uber-terrorist? What if he is the myth, and in the end that is what we’re dealing with, a created myth that [a research group] has perpetuated and cobbled together using elements from popular consciousness,” Black says. “It felt like it said more about the world we live in than just having [Iron Man] fight another terrorist, as opposed to putting a spin on it that said something about the way we view terror, perhaps.”
“What it says to me is, we have to be careful. We want to find villains in the world, but it’s a complex world,” Black adds. “If you’re smart in this world, you’ll rule by proxy because the minute you stick your face out there and assign yourself to the role of international villain you become this symbolic target.”
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What is the difference between a terrorist and a [super] villain?
Magic, super-powers and advanced technology.
the Joker has none of these things
jus' sayin'
I like what he has to say about
While I felt that the Mandarin's portrayal was inspired and rang true as a bit a political commentary, I don't think the same can be said of Killian, whose own motives and goals are very much in-keeping with our more cartoonish understanding of bad guys in our world.
Part of that is perhaps out of necessity, because at the end of it all you need someone Tony can beat with punches and lasers, but after going for something edgy and challenging with Mandarin the ending really felt like an anti-climax.
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Know what he does have?
Pizazz.
The Joker in The Dark Knight? Sure. He's a terrorist with a clown gimmick. The Joker from Burton's Batman? Super-villain. Same goes for the Timm-verse Joker.
These movies are just Robert Downy Jr in a crazy adventure. If you replace RDJ with someone else, i'm not sure how entertaining these movies would be, and i'm much more confident that people would pay more attention to the flaws of the movies if they weren't so entertained by RDJ's performance.
I don't think you can fault the Iron Man films for having good casting.
I don't think you can fault any movie for that.
Agreed.
It's not RDJ's fault that he is Tony Stark.
That doesn't mean he can't be replaced.
Asian villain turns out to be actor controlled by white guy.
That said, I think it's fair to say wandering was making a bit light of the situation.
Nope. He was League of Shadows full-on. And I can see how folks would have had a problem with that choice as well, though I absolutely believed they handled it better.
And I read the EW article as soon as a I came home, and it did nothing to wash the annoyance of the marketing campaign out of my brain. His quote in particular about:
Just read fucking lazy to me. You do it the same way they have done every other character in the last decade of comic movies that has had "issues". This whole crutch of
As for Pepper I was able to sort her out - with a little tinkering - And then I thought hey - Why stop there?
Make of that what you will.
The chilly reception of IM2 and divided opinions of both SHerlock Holmes would seem to poke holes in this theory.
It seems like a kinda silly argument anyway. If you like Diehard more then the Ironman movies you just don't enjoy them as much. There are likely flaws or choices you don't like but its not proof of some RDJ smoke screen making us watch bad movies cause he's in it. Oh and the fact that Banner stole the Avengers for a lot of people.
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If they decide to bring the character back in some way, more power to them. I doubt they will. My only hope is that the positive response to the trailer had MARVEL HQ sitting back and thinking "Maybe we should have tried harder."
I'd like for Whedon to
Oh don't worry
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I thought THAT was a wate of a good villain. Stane could've stuck around and continued to meddle and cast doubts about Stark Senior.
"Try harder?" Marvel tried something insanely ambitious with this movie. If you don't like what they did, that's fine. Everybody's entitled to an opinion, but there's not much cause for saying that Marvel or Shane Black or whomever was "lazy" or that they copped out. This is simply not the case.
It would have been easier to just do it the traditional way, but the narrative would've suffered by going down that path.
I didn't say it will happen I said I'd like for it to happen.
What I know is that going into Ironman 3 I did not have high hopes at all for the movie, assuming that the trailers were straightforward, and I left a much happier person.
Fighting a genius terrorist would have been Iron Man 2. Deciding to not do Iron Man 2 again was a good thing.
Remember when this happened in the movie?
I love that even the LEGO sets are just a total, blatant misdirection.
How did this meeting even GO at LEGO?
"OK so for Avengers we'll do the Cube Escape set, a helicarrier set, a couple Battle of New York sets. Great.
For Iron Man 3...I dunno, just go fucking nuts. It's all lies."
Glorious lies.
I like to think that