Our rules have been updated and given
their own forum. Go and look at them! They are nice, and there may be new ones that you didn't know about! Hooray for rules! Hooray for The System! Hooray for Conforming!
Our new Indie Games subforum is now open for business in G&T. Go and check it out, you might land a code for a free game. If you're developing an indie game and want to post about it,
follow these directions. If you don't, he'll break your legs! Hahaha! Seriously though.
A Thread of A Series of Books of A Song of Ice and Fire (BOOK AND TV SPOILERS HERE)
Posts
Memorial Day weekend. Caused a ratings dip last year, HBO doesn't stand for that shit.
Considering the episode, I understand
but still fuuuuuuck
Imagine the glorious shitstorm we're going to get after that episode.
Now imagine if a significant portion of show-only people missed seeing it on time. Double shitstorm.
And Tyrion's face is all, "But... can't they at least love me a little bit?"
My reaction?
These last few episodes can't come soon enough.
4.
If Talissa is pregnant, then the dude who marries her is King Regent of the North, and essentially has the best hostage in the kingdom: Robb Stark's legitimate progeny and heir to the throne.
All Ramsay has to do is knock her up again, arrange an accident for the legitimate heir ("I swear, your honor, my step-son tripped and fell on my flaying tools... why yes, I am wearing his flesh as a cape. Do you like it? I felt that it was the only way to honor him properly..."), and hope that Sansa, Arya, Bran, or Rickon don't show up with a large army to enforce their claim. Poof! The Boltons are the ruling family of the North.
Varys knows that this would work, and so should you.
edit: Talisa's letter.
Could be something, could be nothing.
Welcome to the world on this side.
Oh and just saw this in the TV thread:
You know what? These books are fucking depressing.
In the very first scene of the episode, Orell says: "People work together when it suits 'em, they're loyal when it suits 'em, love each other when it suits 'em and kill each other when it suits 'em." Very next scene: Catelyn makes a point about Robb breaking his vows. Robb tells Talisa that he loves her, twice, but Talisa does not respond. Tyrion's whole arrangement with Shae is very much "love each other when it suits 'em", which doesn't really sit right with Shae. The Brotherhood Without Banners is loyal to their people until some red woman with lots of gold comes along. When Jaime decides to go back to save Brienne, the Bolton escorts work with him because it suits 'em better than going against him. The only person in the episode to directly contradict Orell's little speech is Jaime, who has nothing to gain by going back for Brienne.
Also, do note how scared the Yunkai ambassador is and how quickly he drinks what is offered. Admittedly he wasn't offered any salt, but a drink is good enough.
I'd be scared too. Those dragons look amazing. That scene was Good Dany, the Fire and Blood, Breaker of Chains Dany that we know and love. The meat-tossing amused me because I immediately thought "yep, get 'em off screen to save money"
I forget which events happen contemporaneously with which others.
A couple nights ago I was talking with friends about how Arya is probably going to show up and murder key characters as the Others are attacking, undermining the whole human resistance out of a lust for vengeance, and then various snow beasts will pull the dragons out of the sky and choke the life out of them, and the books will end with the Others launching their assault against the rest of the world.
And when you turn to the next page, hoping for an epilogue, at least, you will see a portrait of George R R Martin eating a capon with one hand and flipping you off with the other.
NOpe, it's the best. Cause i'm out of town without internet access on that day. And if I missed seeing that episode live with my friends who don't know what's coming and coming here immediately after it would suuuck.
People may flip shit if A Man makes an appearance.
I'm not sure if I want to have us actually see it or just leave it questionable about what happens.
I actually found show Shae way too kindhearted and helpful and genuine, initially
I didn't see a reasonable way for Tyrion to do her in
Regaining one's self-respect and the ability to sleep at night are worth quite a bit, to me at least. Moreso for someone like Jaime, who is only now admitting to himself that a) he lost his self-respect a long time ago and b) he might be able to get at least some of it back.
I understand why she feels the way she feels, I just don't want her to be so awful to Tyrion about it. The anguish on his face was unmistakable; she should acknowledge that and direct her anger at the right target. What makes the series great though is that she acts human, not perfect, and even though she's doomed I do feel for her and wish it worked out differently.
It's better than that for me. Thanks to the break, I'll be watching e9 with a bunch of out-of-town show people I normally don't see. I should send HBO a thank you card.
I'll be spending Memorial Day weekend visiting some out-of-town friends who are show-only, and where before I thought I'd actually get to watch ep9 with them, now I have to avoid show discussion entirely.
yes I think the show version of her was more sympathetic up front, which is why her refusal to understand the game Tyrion is forced to play is annoying.
I would like her more if she would actually think about things and scheme a little. her solution is just "run away" which is stupid.
Its not stupid, its sane.
Feral Vanu Magrider Jockey
Oh I hadn't even thought of that. The book heavily implies that Euron either does the killing or hires a Faceless Man to do it, because he shows up so quickly. We may actually get to see which one it is.
In general I think the show is being weird with events in the North. The Reeds didn't show up at the right time. Sam hasn't killed an Other yet. They're gonna have to really stretch Theon/Ramsay stuff out. Sam didn't send the ravens from the Fist, so Maester Aemon hasn't sent out his ravens, which means it's gonna be weird when Stannis shows up damn near instantly at the Wall when we saw it took the Night's Watch a whole season to walk a few miles.
Because being spoiled on the RW is the only thing that's ever made me say, "I will murder this YouTube commenter." I would not wish my fate on any of the others.
Ron Paul commands the White Walkers.
What if not-Jeyne is a spy, but not for Tywin. Like, a spy for Varys and involved in his plots. Maybe they are gonna start building to the Aegon reveal sooner then in the books. Or something of that sort.
His position against a Wall along the southern border makes him really popular with the Others.
Feral Vanu Magrider Jockey
I've been assuming she's Tywin's spy for a little while now. Why do you think she might be Stannis' spy?
Man, this talk about claimants and bloodlines is all making me want to play Crusader Kings 2 some more.
Wrong name there, I meant Tywin.
Hopefully he threatens to geld Joffrey as he does in the books.