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[Diablo 3] Reports of the Economy's death were greatly exaggerated
HexDex
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Patch 1.08
The Infernal Machine
Monster Power
Forum HC challenge, should it be re-invigorated:
WARNING! There has been a lot of hacking of Battle.net Accounts since Diablo 3's release. GET AN AUTHENTICATOR. You can get them for iOS and Android devices for free, or from the Blizzard store for a reasonable price. If you get hacked Blizzard will restore your items and characters, but only a limited number of times. After the first you will need to get an authenticator anyway, and after the second you will no longer be able to use the RMAH.
D3's opening cinematic
Welcome to the G&T Diablo 3 thread! Add yourself to the PA Battletag list here, then view the full list here!
What's different from Diablo 2?
The game is still an isometric click-fest where you slaughter thousands of demons in the enternal search for better loot, though several of the mechanics/game systems have been changed. It is now ONLINE ONLY, with a max party size of 4. You can set games to be private (invite only), friends only, and open to public. With friends only games, your friends will see a quick join button on their main screens, letting them drop in any time as long as there is room. "Appear Offline" functionality will be coming soon.
Skill trees, skill points, synergies, and manual stat placement are all gone. Instead, all of your stat points are gained and placed automatically with each level up, with distribution based on your class. Skills are now broken into Actives and Passives, and are all gained as you level up, along with the new skill runes. The potion belt is also gone, and potions themselves now have a 30 second cooldown, so no more chugging to stay alive. Instead, enemies drop Health Orbs, which simply heal you and all your allies within range when you walk over them. Runes and Runewords are also gone, and have been replace with a proper crafting system.
Hardcore makes a return, but the requires you to have one character reach level 10 in normal before you can create any Hardcore characters. Last but not least, Hell is no longer the hardest difficulty in the game. That duty has been taken over by the Inferno difficulty, which has proven to be a significant challenge.
There's a lot more detailed info available at the official game guide, including skill calculators and character profiles. If you're still curious, you can try the game for free up to the first boss and level 13.
The Classes
New Systems added since Launch
Paragon levels: Added in 1.04, this adds progression past level 60. For every paragon level you gain, you gain a small amount of stats as well as 3% magic and gold find. This increases up to a cap of 300% at Paragon level 100. The cap is shared with MF from gear (on both yourself and your follower) and shrines but not Nephalem Valor, so the max effective cap is 375%.
Exp charts for Paragon levels:
Monster Power: Coming in 1.05, this mode will be accessible from the menu and provides scaling difficulty for all difficulties. It defaults to off, and at MP1 it sets the level of all enemies in every Inferno Act to 63. Enemy level determines the level of loot you get, making it viable to farm the very best loot wherever you please. Every level of MP increases the MF and exp you get, beyond the 375% cap.
Normal/Nightmare/Hell MP Benefits
Inferno MP benefits (please note that MP2-3 is equivalent to pre-1.05 mob values):
Auction Houses
Diablo 3 has two different types of Auction houses available for players: the gold AH, and the Real Money AH. The gold AH is fairly straight forward, and functions largely the same as AHs found in other games, like WoW. It's available at launch to both Normal and Hardcore characters, but is exclusive between the two. The RMAH allows you to buy and sell in game items with real world currency and is only available for Softcore. Here's quick breakdown of the specifics:
For a more indepth how-to, please go here http://us.battle.net/d3/en/services/auction-house/how-to
Useful links:
Game guide: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/
Damage and EHP calculators: http://www.d3rawr.com/d, http://d3up.com
Max values on items: http://www.d3rmt.com/guides/diablo-3-item-stat-maximum-values/
Blue tracker: http://d3db.com/blue/browse
Gem calculator: http://diablo-3-gem-calculator.com/index.php
Legendary/Set browser: http://www.d3lexicon.com/legendary
Explanation on how loot works: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/24393042/#Comment_24393042
Rare drop evaluation spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AoEU_oBnESrOdElTaVBhZTVFbEYwYzlqbHZJeXk1dGc&toomany=true
Dosh! Moneymoneymoney! Cash guys someone take it!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AoEU_oBnESrOdElTaVBhZTVFbEYwYzlqbHZJeXk1dGc&toomany=true
d3cmww.com/item_stats
diablo.somepage.com/popular/items
Don't buy gold on the auction house, buy radiant gems then sell those for gold.
Patch 1.08
The Infernal Machine
Monster Power
Forum HC challenge, should it be re-invigorated:
RandomEngy wrote: »Guess what's back on?
The Penny-Arcade Forums Super Hardcore Challenge
Rend got busy so I'm taking over for him. And I'm adding a 50 million gold prize for the winner.
Are you hardcore? Do you believe yourself to be the hardest, of all cores? Prove your mettle in this test of speed, skill and luck against opponents eager to show you exactly how much better they are!
The first to kill the Butcher with a new Hardcore character on MP1 will take home 50 million gold.
Glory is for the young: You must make a new Hardcore character for the contest. Start with an empty inventory and 0 experience points. I will let everyone know a special word to put in their character's name before the contest starts.
Gold is for the weak: You cannot buy anything from the vendor or take anything out of the stash. You can only use what drops for you.
Friends are for the incompetent: You must be the only player in the game. You can disable Quick Join in the Social settings to make sure no one crashes your game. Also you must dismiss followers as soon as possible.
Privacy is for the unknown: You must stream your attempt, and agree to let the event caster re-stream it. We want to watch your grisly death! Twitch TV is a great place to stream to.
The winner will be the first player to kill the Butcher
If all combatants die, the player who made it furthest in the quest chain wins
If there is a tie on quest progress, the player who made it to their spot the fastest wins
Reward:
The winner will receive 50 million gold (softcore) on any realm.
Players will have to balance speed and survivability: they can run past packs of enemies , but will give up valuable levels in the process. If you play it safe, someone more reckless than you may take home the gold.
In addition to the individual streams, we'll have an overall stream showing play from different player's streams and giving commentary. Either me or another volunteer will do this.
The event will be casted here: . Those participating should watch at the start time for a final recap of the rules and the special word to put in their character names.
It will be held on Saturday, November 3.
12 PM Pacific Daylight (noon)
3 PM Eastern Daylight
8 PM BST
WARNING! There has been a lot of hacking of Battle.net Accounts since Diablo 3's release. GET AN AUTHENTICATOR. You can get them for iOS and Android devices for free, or from the Blizzard store for a reasonable price. If you get hacked Blizzard will restore your items and characters, but only a limited number of times. After the first you will need to get an authenticator anyway, and after the second you will no longer be able to use the RMAH.
D3's opening cinematic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlhwv4udxtc&feature=player_embeddedWelcome to the G&T Diablo 3 thread! Add yourself to the PA Battletag list here, then view the full list here!
What's different from Diablo 2?
The game is still an isometric click-fest where you slaughter thousands of demons in the enternal search for better loot, though several of the mechanics/game systems have been changed. It is now ONLINE ONLY, with a max party size of 4. You can set games to be private (invite only), friends only, and open to public. With friends only games, your friends will see a quick join button on their main screens, letting them drop in any time as long as there is room. "Appear Offline" functionality will be coming soon.
Skill trees, skill points, synergies, and manual stat placement are all gone. Instead, all of your stat points are gained and placed automatically with each level up, with distribution based on your class. Skills are now broken into Actives and Passives, and are all gained as you level up, along with the new skill runes. The potion belt is also gone, and potions themselves now have a 30 second cooldown, so no more chugging to stay alive. Instead, enemies drop Health Orbs, which simply heal you and all your allies within range when you walk over them. Runes and Runewords are also gone, and have been replace with a proper crafting system.
Hardcore makes a return, but the requires you to have one character reach level 10 in normal before you can create any Hardcore characters. Last but not least, Hell is no longer the hardest difficulty in the game. That duty has been taken over by the Inferno difficulty, which has proven to be a significant challenge.
There's a lot more detailed info available at the official game guide, including skill calculators and character profiles. If you're still curious, you can try the game for free up to the first boss and level 13.
The Classes
New Systems added since Launch
Paragon levels: Added in 1.04, this adds progression past level 60. For every paragon level you gain, you gain a small amount of stats as well as 3% magic and gold find. This increases up to a cap of 300% at Paragon level 100. The cap is shared with MF from gear (on both yourself and your follower) and shrines but not Nephalem Valor, so the max effective cap is 375%.
Exp charts for Paragon levels:
Monster Power: Coming in 1.05, this mode will be accessible from the menu and provides scaling difficulty for all difficulties. It defaults to off, and at MP1 it sets the level of all enemies in every Inferno Act to 63. Enemy level determines the level of loot you get, making it viable to farm the very best loot wherever you please. Every level of MP increases the MF and exp you get, beyond the 375% cap.
Normal/Nightmare/Hell MP Benefits
Inferno MP benefits (please note that MP2-3 is equivalent to pre-1.05 mob values):
Auction Houses
Diablo 3 has two different types of Auction houses available for players: the gold AH, and the Real Money AH. The gold AH is fairly straight forward, and functions largely the same as AHs found in other games, like WoW. It's available at launch to both Normal and Hardcore characters, but is exclusive between the two. The RMAH allows you to buy and sell in game items with real world currency and is only available for Softcore. Here's quick breakdown of the specifics:
-Commodities are automatically searched for best price, and are buyout only.
-You must choose Battle.net balance or real currency when you post the auction, not when it sells.
-15% fee on cashing out
-Battle.net balance can be used for a bunch of battle.net stuff including digital games, and WoW paid services. It cannot be used to pay subscription fees.
-No RMAH in Asia at release
Fees:
For Equipment (weapons, armor, accessories, and other unique items)
Transaction Fee (Gold Auction House): 15% of final sale price
Transaction Fee (Real-Money Auction House): $1.00 USD per item / $1.00 AUD per item
Transfer Fee (when sending proceeds to PayPal or other authorized payment-service provider): 15% of amount being transferred
For Commodities (gems, materials, dyes, pages, recipes, and other non-unique items)
Transaction Fee (Gold Auction House): 15% of final sale price
Transaction Fee (Real-Money Auction House): 15% of final sale price
Transfer Fee (when sending proceeds to PayPal or other authorized payment-service provider): 15% of amount being transferred
-You must choose Battle.net balance or real currency when you post the auction, not when it sells.
-15% fee on cashing out
-Battle.net balance can be used for a bunch of battle.net stuff including digital games, and WoW paid services. It cannot be used to pay subscription fees.
-No RMAH in Asia at release
Fees:
For Equipment (weapons, armor, accessories, and other unique items)
Transaction Fee (Gold Auction House): 15% of final sale price
Transaction Fee (Real-Money Auction House): $1.00 USD per item / $1.00 AUD per item
Transfer Fee (when sending proceeds to PayPal or other authorized payment-service provider): 15% of amount being transferred
For Commodities (gems, materials, dyes, pages, recipes, and other non-unique items)
Transaction Fee (Gold Auction House): 15% of final sale price
Transaction Fee (Real-Money Auction House): 15% of final sale price
Transfer Fee (when sending proceeds to PayPal or other authorized payment-service provider): 15% of amount being transferred
For a more indepth how-to, please go here http://us.battle.net/d3/en/services/auction-house/how-to
Useful links:
Game guide: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/
Damage and EHP calculators: http://www.d3rawr.com/d, http://d3up.com
Max values on items: http://www.d3rmt.com/guides/diablo-3-item-stat-maximum-values/
Blue tracker: http://d3db.com/blue/browse
Gem calculator: http://diablo-3-gem-calculator.com/index.php
Legendary/Set browser: http://www.d3lexicon.com/legendary
Explanation on how loot works: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/24393042/#Comment_24393042
Rare drop evaluation spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AoEU_oBnESrOdElTaVBhZTVFbEYwYzlqbHZJeXk1dGc&toomany=true
Dosh! Moneymoneymoney! Cash guys someone take it!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AoEU_oBnESrOdElTaVBhZTVFbEYwYzlqbHZJeXk1dGc&toomany=true
d3cmww.com/item_stats
diablo.somepage.com/popular/items
Don't buy gold on the auction house, buy radiant gems then sell those for gold.
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D3: Caretta#1196
Updating would be keen.
I had not looked at the battletags list in a while. Yea gods that needs some trimming.
Speaking of which, I still have gold stacks for sale on RMAH. If they sell when they expire, will I get the money from before the patch or after the patch?
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You listed them at pre-patch prices, so if they sell at all(impossible at this point), you would sell them at 25 cents per million pre-patch prices.
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Interesting... I had 30M go out about 2 hours before the downtime (the guy who bought it will be pissed). Have cancelled most of my gold auctions as well - can't see that they will sell.
Nice to see a whole lot of gold in my actual balance (rather than continuously circulating the RMAH).
Sad day though...
Lose: The opposite of win
Loose: Your mum
So, if you buy gems on the RMAH, sell them on the Gold AH will you make a profit by selling that gold on the RMAH? Provided of course the gold sells?
Lose: The opposite of win
Loose: Your mum
No... It's just if you want Gold it's currently still better to buy Gems instead of straight up buying Gold from the RMAH. No path of conversion back(except selling items on RMAH). Who knows if this will stay this way though.
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Lose: The opposite of win
Loose: Your mum
That seems to be the case.
RS E:
Gold: 50M
RMAH: $.59
Flippity flip flip
This could be people trying to rack up Blizbucks by selling gems for cheap. But...people won't STOP buying gold...right?
This is awesome / terrible.
Edit: Kind of fun to keep refreshing and watch the prices spike.
I wonder if you can get immediate gold sales by simply being the lowest? eg 0.32 or whatever. If you start by just selling say, 200M you get 20x.032x.85 = $5.44/0.6 = 9 RSE x 50M = 450M x 0.85 = 382M.
Lose: The opposite of win
Loose: Your mum
I guess price stability is an issue... pity I am at work.
Lose: The opposite of win
Loose: Your mum
I keep missing the window to get $.40 gems. I blame bots.
Shit I didn't think that through all the way. Wow.
I think the risk though will be Gold gem prices and whether they will stay so high.
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What annoys me is that I also just got an email that one of my RMAH items sold too... and I can't take advantage as the working day has only just started for me.
Lose: The opposite of win
Loose: Your mum
You won't get that money for over a day anyway... stupid RMAH wait times.
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Diablo 3 Profile
gw2: Tom.2439 (Short Giraffe, Saltycat, Saltydog)
Yeah - but I have over a $100 in reserve anyway which I can spend in advance knowing that it will be topped up.
Lose: The opposite of win
Loose: Your mum
MY customers!
Lose: The opposite of win
Loose: Your mum
i can't just leave those profits on the table right?
Lose: The opposite of win
Loose: Your mum
lol someone bought all the RSEs
the price is 0 because they're all gone
now topazes too
diablo illuminati
it's so transparent, these single $3.45 topazes
Anyone thought to try this? Possibly a bit risky but if you can get immediate gold sales by being the lowest then there is still double profit to be made.
Lose: The opposite of win
Loose: Your mum
Holy.... well that ends that theory of mine!
Lose: The opposite of win
Loose: Your mum
from the numbers im seeing right now, you can make like 40% profit assuming immediate gold sales and no fluctuations in gem prices or delays