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you are creating holes where there are none.
Istari have mortal bodies that can be killed. Their actual essence returns to what you would describe as paradise. Whether they come back or not is dependent on what the gods want to happen. Gandalf gets sent back because he still has a mission to finish and because Saruman has relinquished his title.
Dying isn't great for them, it sucks.
e: the eagles thing, that is.
the one that only she, the only person in the entire world at that moment, could have killed, yes.
and the eagles didn't consider this a threat to gandalf?
Meriadoc stabbed it with a special blade (they seem to be pretty common in Middle Earth) and there was a prophecy about how the Witch King would fall but not by the hands of mortal men
Hence the "I am no man"
So I guess a combination of a blade being made in a place and a prophecy did him in
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Really his resume speaks for itself
the eye is a metaphor, it doesn't have a viewing distance. He can turn his will upon anything, anywhere, at any time.
It is searching, constantly searching, for the ring. It misses the Hobbits. It would not miss reports of giant eagles traversing the land headed straight for mordor.
This is basically what I'm saying. It's not something that breaks the books or makes me hate them. It's just something that should have been clarified very adroitly within the LotR trilogy so that people like me can get back to pretending JRRT never made any mistakes.
i don't know what you are even on about at this point, but if you're just going to be obtuse to try and get people to argue with you then there's no point in even acknowledging you.
Nazgurl dragons, other flying things, catapults, ogres, magic, magic ogres shot from catapults/
And like I said, scary invisible ring possessd ring monster.
Nazgurl, you look good.
i was under the impression the eagles saved gandalf that one (two?) time because they owed him a debt and had to protect his life
it seems like sauron's dominion over all things is a much greater threat to him than being stuck on a tower, or some goblins
so don't ever get on the eagles is what you're saying
well i mean perhaps that's because they weren't exactly the best mount for going door to door in the shire searching for some hobbits
but much more useful searching over large swaths of land, and in battle, and in eagle-killing
"Oh shit, they might take the eagles, we'd better get them on flying mounts before they think of that"
yeah hang on let me just explain why eagles don't swoop in in response to a looming omnipresent threat that threatens everyone pretty much equally i wrote about this for my thesis it's entitled hot chocolate high velocity
right, and if he's got his entire will focused on exactly where he knows the ring is, well then suddenly frodo is wandering off an eagle's back into the sky
hey nazgurllll
lemme holla at you
and then he's like
well shit
there's eagles flying right for mordor
i wonder why
Some people have already said it!
Here, let me show you:
There, now no nerd ever complains again.
That's all I'm saying! It could have been done, better than I wrote it too. It wasn't, though, so it feels contrived to people. Opinions. I'm not trying to take a dump on JRRT's work. I'm just pointing out that this is one spot that could have been improved upon.
it's something of a more accurate criticism of the movies
Gandalf: "Because, Frodo, eagles don't got to move for nobody."
that's the punchline to that joke about the traveler and the farmer
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You're just jealous that Nazgurl is with me now
What's that? Oh yeah baby, tell me how you see me, I can see you too
You're so rad Nazgurl, let's make out in front of Sassori
At least we're discussing something with a vague footing in reality, as opposed to say, Ayn Rand.
uh dude they see a fell beast with a Nazgul rider when they're camped on the banks of the Anduin, before Boromir's betrayal and the splitting of the Fellowship
Legolas shoots it
pretty sure even if they had gotten on some eagles right at Rivendell they wouldn't have been able to get past the Nazgul
Why didn't the eagles help Frodo blah blah blah?
What you should really be asking is:
Why didn't Manwë tell the eagles to do it?
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