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People are allowed the right to the truth when giving to charity. Maybe some people who gave wouldn't have given if they knew what it was really for. Regardless of their ethical code or what you think of them, that doesn't give people the right to then trick those same people out of their money.
This is the whole fear of how quickly crowd sourcing is growing. regardless of intent, fraud is illegal and is a very serious issue. It can't be hand waved away because of where the money is going.
Getting people to give you money with a lie is still stealing, no matter how good the cause.
If the standard is "raising money for something to improve the quality of life for someone who is alienated and suicidal" then yes, I understand and I still don't care.
She didn't raise money under the pretense of surgery, with the actual intention of spending that money on relocating to France.
She was raising money for surgery, and she lied about the nature of that surgery because people are fucking insane about LGBT rights and she was obviously not in the mental or emotional state to be public about her situation. I legitimately could not give less of a shit whether she was being truthful about the exact type of surgery she was seeking.
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I strongly doubt this
Which totally sucks!
Yeah, nobody is debating this, let's make that clear
honestly, i dont have too much trouble with her taking money from people who wouldnt have supported any trans beneficial activity at all.
Fine, doesn't actually matter to my point. But this argument isn't going anywhere, both sides have made their views pretty clear
No one is arguing on the reporter's behalf
I think you would be really surprised
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In this thread, I meant
The one thing everybody here agrees on is Allistair is a completely horrible asshole. That isn't the issue here.
The impact to the site is minimal, she didn't get any money, and I think there are some quirks to this particular site but I'm pretty sure people can get their money back?
I really don't think the discussion here should be "But what about indiegogo!?"
Anti, I really don't wanna misinterpret this so could you please clarify a point?
If someone had another health issue they needed treatment for that might have a social stigma (aids when it first came around, for example), would it also be ok to lie to people to get money from them?
*reads the last two pages*
Err... never mind.
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I did not know that about Indiegogo!
You're right. But the fact that there are so many exceptions and exclusions and generally terrible circumstances when someone is living their life as LGBT, either in secret or out, means that in situations like these, I am more than willing to make my own exception.
I know that the law doesn't agree with me, and I know that there are people who would have sought to have Sagal prosecuted for her actions if her plan had succeeded and the truth ever came to light. But I still can't look at a situation like this and say "well, it was illegal, so fuck it."
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Did you know that Isaac Asimov died of aids because of a blood transfusion gone wrong, and his widow only revealed that after his death because of the stigma?
And I totally respect this but cannot agree with it.
So crime is okay if they hold opinions different from yours?
Ok thank you. I don't agree with you, but I respect your opinion, just wanted to clarify.
Well it's lucky that you aren't in charge of the legal system
I don't think that's lucky at all
I'm hoping to one day make the post that will make Geth fall in love with me.
Looking at their information pages, they have different kinds of campaigns. Without knowing what kind she was using, this basically just tells me they have some sort of mechanic in place for returning money or preventing it from being taken in the first place.