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  • EchoEcho Per Aspera Ad Inferi Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited May 2013
    I've gotten really interested in code testing lately. Unit tests, acceptance tests, behavior tests... it's all really interesting stuff.

    Saw a job ad that was all WE NEED SOMEONE TO WRITE TESTS and I had no idea doing that specific thing was actually a job.
    Echo on
  • HenroidHenroid Baba Booey to y'all Tyler, TX (where hope comes to die!)Registered User regular
    Reganomics!

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  • HaphazardHaphazard Registered User regular
    A constitution is difficult to maintain. Change it too often and it becomes pointless, don't change it and it becomes a hindrance for many topics.
    To find the sweetspot is once again the problem.
  • CasualCasual IT'S CRIME TIME MOTHAFUCKAS WE OUTRegistered User regular
    Casual wrote: »
    Casual wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Casual wrote: »
    Casual wrote: »
    Also I see a new thread about healthcare, oo this'll be interesting, I like hearing the arguements against it. No, turns out some crazy dude is posting again.

    The arguments against state funded healthcare all boil down to "NOT WITH MY TAX MONEY".
    Well yes. But I enjoy reading bad arguments.

    Also the idea that is isn't in the constitution or wether or not it should be is interesting.

    true, true

    to be honest i'm kind of put off the whole idea of a constitution

    seeing how hidebound the americans are to theirs, it's like an albatross round their necks, rigid and incapible of change

    we've changed it 27 times, and our judicial interpretations far more often

    it's just a convenient excuse for people to hide behind when they already disagree with something but don't want to come right out and say "I don't think my taxes should help people I consider inferior" or "I need this gun to enable my fantasies of shooting federal agents"

    therin lies the problem though

    you changed it a lot at first when it was relativly new and considered a living document but these days it's treated as the sacred word of the founding fathers

    it's become like asking someone to make an amendment to the bible
    In my mums lifetime there have been five amendments. Though I am surprised that the child labour and equal rights amendments never made it.

    How many amendments have there been in our lifetimes?
    None, but I'm saying there were a bunch of amendments in the 60s.

    Which wasn't that long ago, in US terms.

    for a country as young as the US, 50 years is actually a long time
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  • AntinumericAntinumeric Registered User regular
    Casual wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Haphazard wrote: »
    The way the founding fathers are revered in the US is strage to me. Sometimes it seems almost cult-like.

    It's not even that the founding fathers are revered, bur rather this weird made up conception of them.

    People really like to gloss over the anti-religious bent of a lot of them, for example.

    But yeah it is pretty odd and very much sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalalalalala" most of the time the founding fathers get brought up in an argument.

    i have to admit whenever i read a quote by one of the founding fathers it crosses my mind that it may just be part of their legend attributed to them rather than something they said or felt

    like the one that actually said the constituion needs to be a living document because one day the views of their time will probably be seen as backward

    did one of them say that or did someone make it up because the only way to change the decrees of the founding fathers is claim they gave permission?
    I'm not saying the quote about Jefferson skiing down an errupting volcano is false.

    I'm just saying.
    I have my doubts.

    In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phoney God's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.
  • ronyaronya hmmm over there!Registered User regular
    I've got two variables. They're both I(1). They are not cointergrated. One still Granger-causes the other.

    That's... fine, right?
  • EchoEcho Per Aspera Ad Inferi Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    My 8 year old niece wanted to watch Aliens last night. Found this in the living room this morning.
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  • CasualCasual IT'S CRIME TIME MOTHAFUCKAS WE OUTRegistered User regular
    then i reason what the hell does it matter what the founding fathers felt or wanted? the needs of a bunch of guys who have been dead for centuries come way below the needs and wants of the people alive today
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    ??/02/2009 - 19/04/2013
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  • AntinumericAntinumeric Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Echo wrote: »
    I've gotten really interested in code testing lately. Unit tests, acceptance tests, behavior tests... it's all really interesting stuff.

    Saw a job ad that was all WE NEED SOMEONE TO WRITE TESTS and I had no idea doing that specific thing was actually a job.
    If you are in the UK my old job was full blown agile by the book. Write tests before you code, code to the tests everything. So many tests. You got really good at writing them.

    It was actually pretty awesome in nerd terms.


    except for the two people at a computer thing.
    Antinumeric on
    In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phoney God's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.
  • TavTav Registered User regular
    Haphazard wrote: »
    The way the founding fathers are revered in the US is strage to me. Sometimes it seems almost cult-like.

    I liked how they were handled in Bioshock Infinite.
  • EchoEcho Per Aspera Ad Inferi Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    Unit testing is funny in that you kind of code backwards.

    Let's say we want a function named add_numbers that takes two arguments and returns the sum.

    First we write a test that says so - we want a function with a given name, and a bunch of tests that say "if we give it the arguments 2 and 3 I want the result to be 5" etc - test both ways, both for correct results and incorrect results. You want to try to break a few things with unit tests to see how the code handles it.

    Run tests. The tests fail, because we haven't written a single line of the actual code yet.

    Write code. Run tests.

    Tests fail? Fix code.

    Tests pass? OK, done, now write tests for the next function.
  • CasualCasual IT'S CRIME TIME MOTHAFUCKAS WE OUTRegistered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    My 8 year old niece wanted to watch Aliens last night. Found this in the living room this morning.
    mBNLXQA.jpg

    "Hello? Is this the eight year olds girls father? Yes? Good.

    WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU??"
    R.I.P Sir Check
    i write amazing erotic fiction

    its all about anthropomorphic dicks doing everyday things like buying shoes for their scrotum-feet
    ??/02/2009 - 19/04/2013
    He lives on as cheezburger grease in our hearts.
  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    Casual wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    My 8 year old niece wanted to watch Aliens last night. Found this in the living room this morning.
    mBNLXQA.jpg

    "Hello? Is this the eight year olds girls father? Yes? Good.

    WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU??"
    seriously

    kid should be watching Alien
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  • TavTav Registered User regular
    Tav wrote: »
    Shit happens Tav. If you finish you are still doing better than a lot of people.

    oh yeah, I'm ok with it

    but I realised I mentioned four years and talked about going into forth year next year

    it mighta been confusing
    I was making a joke off you continually typoing fourth as forth.

    There is a language called Forth. The book for it is called "Going Forth"

    man that is an obtuse joke

    also typos are totally acceptable during exam week, shut up :P
  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp! I can show you how to be a real man!Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    oh my god this is bullshit

    geoguessr deposited me in the middle of someone's farmhouse driveway with no way to get back onto the main road I see in the distance

    what the fuuuuuuu
  • AntinumericAntinumeric Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    Unit testing is funny in that you kind of code backwards.

    Let's say we want a function named add_numbers that takes two arguments and returns the sum.

    First we write a test that says so - we want a function with a given name, and a bunch of tests that say "if we give it the arguments 2 and 3 I want the result to be 5" etc - test both ways, both for correct results and incorrect results. You want to try to break a few things with unit tests to see how the code handles it.

    Run tests. The tests fail, because we haven't written a single line of the actual code yet.

    Write code. Run tests.

    Tests fail? Fix code.

    Tests pass? OK, done, now write tests for the next function.
    And it works really well.

    Just setting up the framework and making sure you do it can be a pain.

    In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phoney God's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.
  • OrganichuOrganichu Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    oh my god this is bullshit

    geoguessr deposited me in the middle of someone's farmhouse driveway with no way to get back onto the main road I see in the distance

    what the fuuuuuuu

    i mean

    does it look more like an oregon farmhouse or a belarusian farmhouse
  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    Haphazard wrote: »
    The way the founding fathers are revered in the US is strage to me. Sometimes it seems almost cult-like.

    Have you ever been to the capital? Apparently some dude tried to make them into some new Greek pantheon. And there are paintings and art made just for that.
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  • OrganichuOrganichu Registered User regular
    jesus, jlo

    you are hotter than ever

    what is this black magic
  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp! I can show you how to be a real man!Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    Casual wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Haphazard wrote: »
    The way the founding fathers are revered in the US is strage to me. Sometimes it seems almost cult-like.

    It's not even that the founding fathers are revered, bur rather this weird made up conception of them.

    People really like to gloss over the anti-religious bent of a lot of them, for example.

    But yeah it is pretty odd and very much sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalalalalala" most of the time the founding fathers get brought up in an argument.

    i have to admit whenever i read a quote by one of the founding fathers it crosses my mind that it may just be part of their legend attributed to them rather than something they said or felt

    like the one that actually said the constituion needs to be a living document because one day the views of their time will probably be seen as backward

    did one of them say that or did someone make it up because the only way to change the decrees of the founding fathers is claim they gave permission?

    this strikes me as kind of weird, yo

    the "founding fathers" were thirty or forty of the best-educated and most prolific speakers and writers of their time and place

    they left behind thousands of documents - legal opinions, diaries, books, essays and criticism, newspaper editorials, speeches - and they had wildly different ideas about many things. finding a quote from one of them to support a position is fairly easy unless you're talking about, like, the Internet or going to Mars or something
  • EchoEcho Per Aspera Ad Inferi Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    And it works really well.

    Just setting up the framework and making sure you do it can be a pain.

    Ruby is really great for it, with tons of testing frameworks.

    I need to think of a small project I can try Cucumber on.
  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    oh my god this is bullshit

    geoguessr deposited me in the middle of someone's farmhouse driveway with no way to get back onto the main road I see in the distance

    what the fuuuuuuu
    use the local flora to narrow down the latitude you scrub
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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    narrow windy road on a mountain or hill

    deciduous and evergreen trees

    appalachia?

    fake edit: noooooooope, oregon
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  • EchoEcho Per Aspera Ad Inferi Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    But the basic Rspec package is enough for most stuff, and it has a nice, readable syntax. I like the context declarations.
    describe Stream::Twitch do
    
      it 'should be a Stream' do
        twitch_online.should be_a(Stream)
      end
    
      context 'stream is online' do
        it 'should initialize' do
          twitch_online.should be_an_instance_of(Stream::Twitch)
        end
      end
    
      context 'stream is offline' do
        it 'should initialize' do
          twitch_offline.should be_an_instance_of(Stream::Twitch)
        end
      end
    
      describe '#is_live?' do
        context 'stream is online' do
          it 'returns true' do
            twitch_online.is_live?.should be_true
          end
        end
    
        context 'stream is offline' do
          it 'returns false' do
            twitch_offline.is_live?.should be_false
          end
        end
      end
    
  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp! I can show you how to be a real man!Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    Organichu wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    oh my god this is bullshit

    geoguessr deposited me in the middle of someone's farmhouse driveway with no way to get back onto the main road I see in the distance

    what the fuuuuuuu

    i mean

    does it look more like an oregon farmhouse or a belarusian farmhouse

    it looks to be flat and temperate. there is a distant building with a terracotta roof. there is a car, a two-door mid-sized sedan, with a long, rectangular Euro-style license plate.

    my instinct is to say Poland for no particular reason but really it could be anywhere.

    why was the google van here

    why is there no connecting node

  • TavTav Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Casual wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Haphazard wrote: »
    The way the founding fathers are revered in the US is strage to me. Sometimes it seems almost cult-like.

    It's not even that the founding fathers are revered, bur rather this weird made up conception of them.

    People really like to gloss over the anti-religious bent of a lot of them, for example.

    But yeah it is pretty odd and very much sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalalalalala" most of the time the founding fathers get brought up in an argument.

    i have to admit whenever i read a quote by one of the founding fathers it crosses my mind that it may just be part of their legend attributed to them rather than something they said or felt

    like the one that actually said the constituion needs to be a living document because one day the views of their time will probably be seen as backward

    did one of them say that or did someone make it up because the only way to change the decrees of the founding fathers is claim they gave permission?

    this strikes me as kind of weird, yo

    the "founding fathers" were thirty or forty of the best-educated and most prolific speakers and writers of their time and place

    they left behind thousands of documents - legal opinions, diaries, books, essays and criticism, newspaper editorials, speeches - and they had wildly different ideas about many things. finding a quote from one of them to support a position is fairly easy unless you're talking about, like, the Internet or going to Mars or something

    on average how many voting Americans have read, lets say, five of those documents?
  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    st. louis arch

    I WONDER WHERE THAT IS
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  • HaphazardHaphazard Registered User regular
    Kagera wrote: »
    Haphazard wrote: »
    The way the founding fathers are revered in the US is strage to me. Sometimes it seems almost cult-like.

    Have you ever been to the capital? Apparently some dude tried to make them into some new Greek pantheon. And there are paintings and art made just for that.

    No, but I want to. Perhaps I should visit my own capital first, though.
  • OrganichuOrganichu Registered User regular
    ok i can see my penis in this pic, even zoomed all the way out

    this is elendil's address

    what the
  • EchoEcho Per Aspera Ad Inferi Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    Ruby's really great for making domain-specific languages.
  • AntinumericAntinumeric Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    oh my god this is bullshit

    geoguessr deposited me in the middle of someone's farmhouse driveway with no way to get back onto the main road I see in the distance

    what the fuuuuuuu

    i mean

    does it look more like an oregon farmhouse or a belarusian farmhouse

    it looks to be flat and temperate. there is a distant building with a terracotta roof. there is a car, a two-door mid-sized sedan, with a long, rectangular Euro-style license plate.

    my instinct is to say Poland for no particular reason but really it could be anywhere.

    why was the google van here

    why is there no connecting node
    Just got a location where every single sign and identifiable thing is censored.

    Just a giant blur looking one direction.

    In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phoney God's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.
  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Casual wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Haphazard wrote: »
    The way the founding fathers are revered in the US is strage to me. Sometimes it seems almost cult-like.

    It's not even that the founding fathers are revered, bur rather this weird made up conception of them.

    People really like to gloss over the anti-religious bent of a lot of them, for example.

    But yeah it is pretty odd and very much sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalalalalala" most of the time the founding fathers get brought up in an argument.

    i have to admit whenever i read a quote by one of the founding fathers it crosses my mind that it may just be part of their legend attributed to them rather than something they said or felt

    like the one that actually said the constituion needs to be a living document because one day the views of their time will probably be seen as backward

    did one of them say that or did someone make it up because the only way to change the decrees of the founding fathers is claim they gave permission?

    this strikes me as kind of weird, yo

    the "founding fathers" were thirty or forty of the best-educated and most prolific speakers and writers of their time and place

    they left behind thousands of documents - legal opinions, diaries, books, essays and criticism, newspaper editorials, speeches - and they had wildly different ideas about many things. finding a quote from one of them to support a position is fairly easy unless you're talking about, like, the Internet or going to Mars or something
    One day we will go to Mars.
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  • TavTav Registered User regular
    Haphazard wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Haphazard wrote: »
    The way the founding fathers are revered in the US is strage to me. Sometimes it seems almost cult-like.

    Have you ever been to the capital? Apparently some dude tried to make them into some new Greek pantheon. And there are paintings and art made just for that.

    No, but I want to. Perhaps I should visit my own capital first, though.

    You've never been to Munich?
  • CasualCasual IT'S CRIME TIME MOTHAFUCKAS WE OUTRegistered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Casual wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Haphazard wrote: »
    The way the founding fathers are revered in the US is strage to me. Sometimes it seems almost cult-like.

    It's not even that the founding fathers are revered, bur rather this weird made up conception of them.

    People really like to gloss over the anti-religious bent of a lot of them, for example.

    But yeah it is pretty odd and very much sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalalalalala" most of the time the founding fathers get brought up in an argument.

    i have to admit whenever i read a quote by one of the founding fathers it crosses my mind that it may just be part of their legend attributed to them rather than something they said or felt

    like the one that actually said the constituion needs to be a living document because one day the views of their time will probably be seen as backward

    did one of them say that or did someone make it up because the only way to change the decrees of the founding fathers is claim they gave permission?

    this strikes me as kind of weird, yo

    the "founding fathers" were thirty or forty of the best-educated and most prolific speakers and writers of their time and place

    they left behind thousands of documents - legal opinions, diaries, books, essays and criticism, newspaper editorials, speeches - and they had wildly different ideas about many things. finding a quote from one of them to support a position is fairly easy unless you're talking about, like, the Internet or going to Mars or something

    to clarify i'm not calling out everything that's ever been written about them as bullshit or anything specifically attributed to them even, i'm just saying one of the first things i was taught in history class was to have a bit of sceptesim when reading historical accounts about guys like them

    they're polarising figures, revered as saints by many and reviled by others

    they're so tied up in the American national ethos they're exactly the kind of guys where it becomes hard to disentangle the myth from the men
    Casual on
    R.I.P Sir Check
    i write amazing erotic fiction

    its all about anthropomorphic dicks doing everyday things like buying shoes for their scrotum-feet
    ??/02/2009 - 19/04/2013
    He lives on as cheezburger grease in our hearts.
  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    that guess earned me 48 points

    good lord
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  • AntinumericAntinumeric Registered User regular
    11554 points.

    My geography knowledge. Apparently Australia and Mexico look really similar.
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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp! I can show you how to be a real man!Super Moderator, Moderator mod
  • CasualCasual IT'S CRIME TIME MOTHAFUCKAS WE OUTRegistered User regular
    elendil, do you and elldren meet up to discuss changing avatars and decide on common themes?
    R.I.P Sir Check
    i write amazing erotic fiction

    its all about anthropomorphic dicks doing everyday things like buying shoes for their scrotum-feet
    ??/02/2009 - 19/04/2013
    He lives on as cheezburger grease in our hearts.
  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    a japanese restuarant

    this must be japan! my logic is flawless
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  • ronyaronya hmmm over there!Registered User regular
    how did the google van get lost in that wasteland
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