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Strip Search - Elimination #7
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2. I think Monica went a little too far in the counter-trolling. I understand why she did it given the comic but I think most people agree that a "fucked your mum" comment will always raise someones hackles unless you are very, very, very familiar with each other, I know they said they liked her fightback and all but if you look at Mike's demeanour it totally changes at that point and each time Monica shuts him down after that it seems she is more and more mean-spirited about it in tone/attitude (like seriously, what's the point of the "Your striped shirt is stupid" comment when you know he's angling yet again for an apology about the "fuck your mum"?)
3. I did actually lol when it got to the 4th panel on Lexxy's strip with the rollerskate biting the kid
4. I still think that Monica did the better comic in terms of art and execution. I like the fact that people are reading it so many different ways and still none the way I read it. To me it was that the young dinosaur grew up dreaming of being a rollerskater but had to give up that dream to get a real job in the economy as a way to make ends meet but they didn't give up the love of skating and so skate off to their "real job" every day thus keeping their passion alive for at least another day even if it's not their main focus.
5. If Lexxy won just because hers brought laughs and Monica's was too high-concept then I guess we'll never see another Twisp & Catsby strip?
Yeah I have some issue with it, I don't think the best artist on the day won and that Lexxy showed that unlikable side a few times in the episode again (in the same way as Abby when she continued to comment that her stand-up didn't need fixing even in the episode after her elimination round) but I can't fault the decision the guys came to given the way they have judged previously even if I don't agree with them.
You will notice because Monica put Mike off his game he struggled to get past apologizing into giving here sage advice as he did to the other contestants that lost. His pep-talk to Alex, Ty and the others was far more useful and could have been more useful to her. Sometimes shutting people down is a huge mistake because it is yet another barrier that wastes time because it has to be overcome to even get near resolutions, In the end she robbed herself of the nurturing pep-talk everyone else received.
Regardless of the sentiment, it's a fair assessment based on the amount of time she had to wait while the judges deliberated. If Mike and Jerry came to a conclusion quicker the second time, then she is objectively correct in the assertion that the competition wasn't as tight.
Despite really liking Lexxy's work, and actively cheering Lexxy on, I thought that comment was a little unfortunate as well.
I don't know, I didn't really get the feeling that Mike was truly offended. In fact, I thought he was amused by that comment. Personally, I think he was just playing up his hurt feelings for laughs.
Also, I really wish that when Mike asked Lexxy if she would "ever say horrible things about [his] mom", that she would have replied with no and then immediately followed it up by saying horrible things about his father. That would have been incredible.
To be fair, Twisp and Catsby are still genuinely funny; they simply rely more heavily on abstract and absurdest humor. I would say that the better comparison would be with some of the comics that feature Mike's son; more specifically, the comics that have a more sentimental focus. Still, it is really hard to pick a clear "winner" when both comics are so very different in style. Especially when both comics are quite good.
But on the other hand it is one of those things where it's like having to explain a joke ruins it, if her strip takes effort to get then it might spoil the moment too much.
REALLY ABBY, IS THAT HOW YOU KNEW SHE HAD WON?! GOOD WORK.
As for shutting Mike down the whole time... her big play was to hit Mike and Jerry with feels. If she wanted to do that, she couldn't answer anything beyond 'all will be revealed at the end' lest the impact be reduced. Whether she took it too far or not depends really on how Mike perceived it, and so that's really a question only Mike can answer. I can't answer that for him. If getting more time to actually draw was part of it, though, that bit of it paid off because holy shit that should not be possible to draw in 90 minutes.
That house just looks so empty without her in it.
Yeah, when I saw the length and quality of the finished product I couldn't believe how good the art was, no matter opinions on the strip itself
It looked like Mike's feelings were a bit hurt there and props to him for offering an apology.
I thought Monica's comic was powerful and heart achingly sweet, and then Mike pointed out that Monica was the dinosaur and i may have got a bit teary. My initial reaction was that hers was the better work. After three more viewings it remains so.
I don't really get the Abby comment. Yeah to us watching the show it was four days later and we were (mostly) over it, but to her I'm guessing the interview happened not even 18 hours after her elimination (likely less than half of those hours conscious), and I also highly doubt she wasn't asked about it either 0.o
I would like to say that Monica's comic really resonated with me and it makes me jealous that I don't have that sort of compulsion that there was something that I must do. It certainly doesn't make it easy when that compulsion is rollerskating or cartooning, but there is also something really beautiful about having that drive to do it.
I wish her the best of luck.
Even if it wasn't humor they were looking for, the moment Mike and Jerry have to spend a couple minutes figuring out Monica's comic it was all over.
The crux of the comic is that it is acting as a parody of advertisements from the 80's and early 90's. Personally, I found it hilarious. However, such things are highly subjective.
Clarification often only comes to future contestants as more people go through the process. They can say what they're looking for, but it's the decisions they actually make that are going to be most telling. The best way to see what they favor and what their priority scale is, is to send people into the Thunderdome and have them just make decision after decision until you get the idea and the show's equivalent of making fire, cooking risotto or driving stick reveals itself.
As it stands, what's revealing itself as most important is gut reaction. Biggest, quickest laugh wins.
Lexxy's was hilarious on many levels. It had such a crazy blend of not knowing if the Dino was real or not. I was like, he's real! Oh, he's not. Wait, he's real and he was pretending to be nice and now he is eating theeeeem! Loved it.
I was surprised Mike and Jerry had to work through Monica's so much and also that they didn't comment more on the epicness of the art. I got it instantly. My interpretation doesn't involve the Dino running away from anything. The breath-out is the representation of reversing the previous decision and committing to skating, economy and other job be damned. After that? Time to work, son. Loved it.
I am so glad I didn't have to make this call.
Now as far as debating whether that is reason enough to send her home, I think so, but I can see how others would disagree.
Loved the banter, especially "Get fucked" right off the bat. Mike wasn't offended by any of it I'm sure. He had a grand time.
Really enjoy Lexxy's art style. High quality work. Monica's regular comic strip is wonderful and everyone should read it.
Fair assessment, probably. But it's also another unfortunate statement from Lexxy that will give those that dislike her more ammunition. I guess with Amy gone, they needed to create/edit another "villian"-type character and Lexxy seems to be filling the bill (others have made "unfortunate" remarks too, but Lexxy's seem to get noticed more)...
If the Penny Arcade staff wanted to edit in a villain... what in the world would make them choose Lexxy?
Monica's banter crossed the line from playfully defiant to openly hostile for no good reason and was a bit cringe-worthy for me.
I didn't get Monica's comic at all until it was explained, mostly due to the brief amount of time it's shown. It's emotional and good work, but as others have said, didn't really have anything to do with the theme other than setting.
I think some of the younger kids here may not get Lexxy's comic but as a child of the 80's and 90's, the comic is spot-on.
Great job Lexxy.
I wasn't surprised at the winner. It seems that whatever strip Mike & Jerry connect with the quickest is the one that wins.
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I would also argue it's parodying comic book advertisements from the 70's too (and probably even earlier). While Lexxy's comic was good, it's a subject that's been hit on a few times, such as here...
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0091.html
The creators are looking for someone who can produce something funny based on the combination of two ideas. While the fact that it HAS to be funny isn't blatantly stated, we're talking about strip format here and anyone familiar with the basic Penny Arcade strips knows this. I think it's more than fair to assume that all competitors are familiar with Mike and Jerry's work.
As far as I can recall, Katie was the only artist who incorporated a piece of herself into a strip of hers that ended up winning an elimination round. Why? Because she kept it punchy and to-the-point. As was previously said, the dinosaurs and roller skates could've been replaced by anything and still have worked. They seemed merely incidental to the strip. However, Lexxy's combination of dinos and skates was 'tighter', as it were, in that her strip would not have worked as well with different elements.
That said, I will miss Monica. A lot. Her personality and energy made me smile throughout the series and I'm a big fan of her regular webcomic. It saddened me to see that light fade from her face as Mike announced that her strip didn't make the cut.
Props to Lexxy, though. She has said several times that her work as an illustrator means that she's used to extended, drawn out affairs, not off-the-cuff stuff. She's really showing she can work out of her comfort zone here, which is what has lead her this far.
So, in conclusion. GO TEAM TANGENT! MONTREAL REPRESENT!
Yeah... Lexxy's comic reminded me of the old school (SNL, etc) commercial parodies... loved it.
Monica's was a good comic too, but kind of serious. Glad they didn't destroy the comic at the end.
That's an incredibly rude and presumptuous comment. You don't have to like Lexxy, but projecting that distaste onto the rest of the artists is really unnecessary.
Honestly, it beats me why (I actually happen to like Lexxy myself). Regardless, they certainly stumbled upon a person who seems to arouse a lot of vitriol among viewers, judging from some of the posts here.