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The Brad Muir Thread: Also Starring Giant Bomb
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Sure, but it's just realising that gaming suffers from social inequality, same as everything else.
And congregating in physical locations is what allowed them to gain legitimacy and develop into something bigger, with more attention and funding. A solid foundation is what allows for support to be given to those who might lack for resources and accessibility, like Sony's pub fund and the moves Nintendo are making.
I would consider attending events/conventions an investment for up-and-coming developers due to the connections you might make. It's an option that's not available to everyone, but it's not necessary.
The best way would be to start up local Game Jams all over the place and make it so there's not a day where an indie developer doesn't have something they could be doing on this site.
If the nearest big city doesn't have a at least yearly game jam, make one. Find like minded people in the area and network with them. It doesn't matter if it's held in someone's basement or garage, build up the face to face interaction with people within your community.
While it may not be as great as being able to attend GDC or IGF or PAXDEV (I'm not sure if that's the name or not), but it's a start towards those things.
these are some pretty good ideas to broaden the scene, and I'm glad you recognize there is a problem with possible solutions instead of denying that there is a problem or that even if there is a problem there's nothing we can do
The reason people tend to be dismissive or argumentative to the point of potentially saying the equivalent of "it's fine, just shut up" is that saying that there is a problem without offering solutions when it is so easy and simple to come up with ideas (as I did) implies a certain laziness or anger behind the person proposing the problem. The issue at hand is not that there are not solutions. The solutions are easy to conceive. The issue is that no one is enacting them, no one is willing to put their foot down and say "I really don't like the current state of indie social networking, and I'm going to do something about it!", or if they are 'doing something about it' the thing they are attempting to do is raise awareness about the problem. Awareness is not action. Changing your Facebook profile picture to black didn't stop bullying. It's just someone saying "yeah i don't like bullying".
I'm not taking action against the state of indie social networking because I don't think there's an actual problem. I subscribe to the school of it not being easy, but an incredible amount of the game industry not being easy either. Gabe Newell or Chris Avellone or Brad Muir didn't get where they are because it was easy for them. It was hard, and it's hard for AAA, and it's hard for indies, oh well. But if someone did think there was an actual problem, then the only excuse they have for not trying to fix it (because as mentioned the solutions are very easy to conceive of) is that they do not wish to put in the work to do so. And if you don't want to put in the work, you don't get anything. LIFE.
yeah they had to work hard but they also have advantages there
The indie gaming scene is not where those battles are fought, though they're certainly felt there as much as anything else is.
those battles are fought everywhere
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Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
That isn't really relevant to the discussion at hand, which is that if networking at specific places is a problem, the solutions merely require action and work by someone to do something elsewhere or create something online as a response.
It is an accepted given that minorities have it harder in America. That doesn't mean that the listed examples didn't work, which was the entire point.
Okay how about Supergiant Games?
A team so multicultural that they probably run errands for Gaia in their spare time.
It is relevant to why you feel there is a problem with the current system, it is not relevant to proposed solutions that are unaffected by race unless you imagine I was saying "Create a website that only white guys can use".
every man for himself
swear to god they had better translate that thing
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yeah, I'm talking about why there is a problem with the current system and not about your proposed solutions which I think are good
this is the part of your post that I am talking about
I wish Harvest Moon got this kind of love. I guess I'll settle for numerous and increasingly mediocre releases
don't care, still want
Well hey look on the bright side
I hear the latest one is pretty damn good
It's a lot better than the 4 titles preceeding it, but it has problems. I couldn't stick with it, but maybe that's my fault
Are you asking me if I'm not aware that minorities have it harder in western culture due to various socioeconomic historical reasons that persist to the common day?
It's weirding me out just a little bit.
Have you ever seen the two in the same place at once?!
Oh wait, yeah, I guess we see that a lot nevermind.
no one is dismissing those guys
the blog post posits that a major problem with the current indie games scene is that it is insular, and insular in a way that favors white men with money
I needed a name to post says there is not a problem, the industry is just hard and requires hard work, and cites three successes under the current system all of whom are white men
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in a roundabout way, i suppose that i'm asking you if the suggestions you posted were earnest
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Ah, I guess it makes sense then.
Are you going to give your own suggestions that you feel would help put minority groups on an equal playing field (which, just to be clear, I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread agrees that white people generally have an inherent advantage across all industries) or are you going to keep sarcastically sniping at the only guy who is actually thinking of possible solutions?