Our rules have been updated and given
their own forum. Go and look at them! They are nice, and there may be new ones that you didn't know about! Hooray for rules! Hooray for The System! Hooray for Conforming!
Our new Indie Games subforum is now open for business in G&T. Go and check it out, you might land a code for a free game. If you're developing an indie game and want to post about it,
follow these directions. If you don't, he'll break your legs! Hahaha! Seriously though.
The Brad Muir Thread: Also Starring Giant Bomb
Posts
I think you're reading that sarcasm into it
It's all a matter of perspective.
The GDC game programming one was being cheeky. Everything else is something that someone could do. None of them are supposed to be something that anyone could do. I am not positing that Joe who works a minimum wage job at day and codes at night and barely has enough money to feed himself can immediately turn around and drop $100k in a scholarship fund. Obviously he can not, as it is not feasible for him and his current situation regardless of what race he is.
But Joe can talk to people over the internet, and he can try to work towards those things just the same. He could put in a shit-ton of time to try and get a bunch of people interested in organizing that scholarship fund over the course of five years, and maybe it will manifest. And he's not going to do that by sitting around whinging about how there's a problem.
If that's where you want to start, then there are way, way more relevant things to that issue than the location of conferences and conventions. A better investment would be more basic, like a computer science initiative in elementary and college classes, and mini "developer studios" in underserved communities with the technology and licenses to give alternatively educated people some background experience. Incentivizing white collar CS internships with minimal experience requirements would also be good. There are already ground level initiatives in place for closing what we call the "Digital Divide."
See here, I picked a broad, nebulous issue, and I narrowed it down to something I could handle, which is the socioeconomic disadvantage that minorities have specifically in exposure to personal computing on a professional level. Too many people often just try to correct huge problems by attacking them in every form wherever they see it based on minimal evidence. Increasing the minority presence in the game developer scene requires you to find where exactly we're at in terms of leveling the playing field, and the solution is often on a lower level than you'd think. If you try to do everything at every level, chances are you'll fail for not giving each problem the attention it deserves.
One of the things you learn as a professional is that you can't do everything about everything, so you need to decide how deep it is possible for you to go. It is tempting to try to learn everything at the deepest possible level, but that might prevent you from being able to look at the big picture, which really requires discipline in limiting yourself to high yield facts and methods that are not impossible for your brain to tie together. If you specialize, do it on a topic of appropriate breadth you know you can handle, and focus on improving your ability to come up with systematic questions allowing you to define what the next step is.
In both cases, you have to eliminate the noise that confounds your brain, which can be composed of very thorough and well meaning facts and arguments but is not pertinent to the task at hand and promotes disorganization. Things can be relevant, but not high yield enough to warrant discussion depending on the defined scope of the discussion.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
i was asking him a sincere question
trust me, you'd know if i was being a smartass
tumblr | instagram | twitter | steam
i almost just said "game developers" and i really regret pulling the first three people i had on my mind (due to having steam open, thinking about the torment kickstarter earlier, and being in the brad muir thread)
Pretty much any possible solution we can give is--at a basic level--probably going to be more available to whites than anyone else, simply because of how society works right now.
But ending the inequality between races is kind of outside the scope of what the indie game scene can do. Which means it's necessary to find a solution that a) is geared to be equally available regardless of race, class or location and b) either approximates the advantages gained from going to major conferences or makes it possible to attend those conferences.
And before we even get into this I know that minorities have a myriad of disadvantages in western culture
But he could have just as easily replaced the names Avellone, Muir, and Newell with other teams and developers that are not white men and the statement would largely remain the same
So saying "they're white guys so it doesn't count" strikes me as something of a lazy argument
Okay, my apologies.
It read like a rhetorical question to me.
Maybe it's in the middle of the ocean, maybe the moon, i'm still working on details.
Well obviously someone thought they knew you were, so obviously they wouldn't know.
My sole argument was on the subject of people who want to go to conventions but can not for whatever reason (primarily metropolitan areas/the possibility of digital networking), as that was the subject at hand when I entered the thread. That is all I was addressing about the indie games scene.
ah yes the american dream, everyone should just stop whining because hard work equals success
"Maybe" it will manifest.
I am implying that whining instead of action does not equal result. I don't think this is a controversial statement.
The glorious moon empire will never fall.
Now you've just doomed it.
You get to stay back on stupid earth!
There's some crazy shit in there.
I agree.
However I know there isn't a giant moon monster, I'm not so sure about the ocean.
the sentence
is death
You're a crook, Captain Hook, Judge, won't you throw the book at the pirate!
I like the way you think. you're hired.
I also would have accepted Godzilla
well, it's not so much controversial as it is stupid
what constitutes "whining"? what constitutes "action"? can reasoned criticism not be considered action?
The original teaser was pretty good!
Accept NO substitutes.
Cloverfield was no godzilla.
What constitutes "a godzilla"
Is it like a Dracula
Do you know how much a city that big would cost on the sun?
This show is so unrealistic.
Origin: Turamb | Steam: Turambar | last.fm
Sorry my bad.
Godzilla.
Capital G.
Well technically there have been multiple Godzillas
And that's before we bring Space Godzilla into the equation
Thank God
You're a crook, Captain Hook, Judge, won't you throw the book at the pirate!
Couldn't the son of Godzilla even speak
Walked out with Hotel Dusk on the DS for $4. Think I made out pretty good.
Blog|3DS Buzz|Z Connect|Tumblr|Steam|Twitter
History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man.
Especially that godawful Mathew Brodric Film.
Ferris Bueller vs. a giant lizard is a thing that interests me
You're a crook, Captain Hook, Judge, won't you throw the book at the pirate!