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  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    ongoing impressions of assassins' creed 3:
    okay, so i am at new york now. I just finished the jail mission. and all of a sudden politics are being injected into my ac game. what the fuck is that shit?

    english accent history guy went from being an endearing comic foil to a pompous ass in like 3 minutes

    i mean, i literally thought to myself "oh wow, some writer discovered A People's History of the United States"
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  • HonkHonk Registered User regular
    TTODewback wrote: »
    I already knew half of these facts but cool anyways
    http://imgur.com/gallery/WDv6D

    The doritos thing is extremely dumb if true. Like we could make these so people were more clean after eating them but we think people love getting grease on all their stuff / washing their hands often.
  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    A porn mod for Skyrim on the PC should be titled Skyrimm'd.
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  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot Registered User regular
    i tried using the markers in sketchbook express instead of coloring the flat and plain old fashioned way

    not sure if i like the results
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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    ...can you actually be addicted to soda?

    you can be addicted to anything, you can't be CHEMICALLY addicted to anything

    well, yeah, that's what I meant.
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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons LondresRegistered User regular
    I am no fan of the House of Mountbatten but on the other hand, some sort of comparison with England being a mother and the US being the ungrateful oldest daughter and Nz being a spoiled baby
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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    I have been arguing with a friend about the american revolution for the last hour. Their train of thought has no logical connections and they are unable to respond to any point I make. Why am I doing this to myself? This is a person who is otherwise intelligent so I have this weird hope that eventually a light will turn on and they will see that they are not making any sense.

    The crux of their whole argument is that the american revolution was one of the greatest things to ever happen in modern history. If it wasn't immigrants would have never came to America and WWII would have been lost.

    There is such a poor grasp of history there and yet such a strong conviction that she's right. Then again I have to remind myself that this is the same person who said that Japanese internment camps made sense and couldn't understand why an entire room of people were in awe at her comment.

    hmm... that one is tricky.

    Just because without the American revolution all the long, complicated years leading up to ww2 would be different. So very different.

    I didn't bring up something that far down the line because it's kind of silly conjecture. She actually said

    "do you think the brits and canadians would have been able to drop the bomb to end the war with america? no!"

    I thought about pointing out how many immigrants and expatriates were involved in the Manhattan project but then she brought up that the Louisiana purchase would have never happened without the revolution. My first thought was "so?"
    Yet that is exactly what i see here.
  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    I have been arguing with a friend about the american revolution for the last hour. Their train of thought has no logical connections and they are unable to respond to any point I make. Why am I doing this to myself? This is a person who is otherwise intelligent so I have this weird hope that eventually a light will turn on and they will see that they are not making any sense.

    The crux of their whole argument is that the american revolution was one of the greatest things to ever happen in modern history. If it wasn't immigrants would have never came to America and WWII would have been lost.

    There is such a poor grasp of history there and yet such a strong conviction that she's right. Then again I have to remind myself that this is the same person who said that Japanese internment camps made sense and couldn't understand why an entire room of people were in awe at her comment.

    hmm... that one is tricky.

    Just because without the American revolution all the long, complicated years leading up to ww2 would be different. So very different.

    Yeah, that's a super dumb stance to take.

    Mostly because it is sort of correct but also incredibly not, as the picture of Europe in the 19th century would not be one we recognize if Britain hadn't wasted so much time and money and blood over here.

    Also if Thomas Paine had been killed in New England he never would've gotten his hands on the French.

    It is an interesting thought experience, but that is such a silly position. Sort of like saying that if Hitler had won WW2 there'd have been no 9/11.
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  • WinkyWinky Registered User regular
    Gooey wrote: »
    ongoing impressions of assassins' creed 3:
    okay, so i am at new york now. I just finished the jail mission. and all of a sudden politics are being injected into my ac game. what the fuck is that shit?

    english accent history guy went from being an endearing comic foil to a pompous ass in like 3 minutes

    i mean, i literally thought to myself "oh wow, some writer discovered A People's History of the United States"

    I don't know what in particular you are referring to, but without a doubt the founding fathers were a bunch of douchebags, even the mostly cool ones.
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  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    The American revolution was a pretty good thing on the whole, wasn't it?

    Like it started the era of modern democracy becoming in vogue which was a big deal, didn't it?

    I mean

    The native Americans probably would be on the fence about it. Also slaves.

    I recall something giving me the impression that the native Americans were all about it at the time? Granted, they didn't realize what was going to happen because of it.

    Also, the slaves were equally screwed under either system.

    There was a whole front of the war between natives and the colonists. Many native groups were very much on the side of fighting for England. Because England thought expanding west was a huge pain in the ass (not easily accessible by sea, and expensive) and wanted to set aside a good chunk of the continent for the natives in order to have peace with them (less expensive than protecting the frontiers).
    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • override367override367 Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    man my best friend refuses to play LoL with my nephew and my other friends go along with it so here I am playing with him by myself

    i mean he's bad but my friend's brother in law and wife are much, much worse and I don't hold it against them because its a fucking game

    /grumpy

    Edit: I guess its because hes bad but hes 19 so he thinks he's god's gift to everything and refuses to accept criticism
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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    The American revolution was a pretty good thing on the whole, wasn't it?

    Like it started the era of modern democracy becoming in vogue which was a big deal, didn't it?

    I mean

    The native Americans probably would be on the fence about it. Also slaves.

    I recall something giving me the impression that the native Americans were all about it at the time? Granted, they didn't realize what was going to happen because of it.

    Also, the slaves were equally screwed under either system.

    French influence.
    Yet that is exactly what i see here.
  • WinkyWinky Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    The American revolution was a pretty good thing on the whole, wasn't it?

    Like it started the era of modern democracy becoming in vogue which was a big deal, didn't it?

    I mean

    The native Americans probably would be on the fence about it. Also slaves.

    I recall something giving me the impression that the native Americans were all about it at the time? Granted, they didn't realize what was going to happen because of it.

    Also, the slaves were equally screwed under either system.

    There was a whole front of the war between natives and the colonists. Many native groups were very much on the side of fighting for England. Because England thought expanding west was a huge pain in the ass (not easily accessible by sea, and expensive) and wanted to set aside a good chunk of the continent for the natives in order to have peace with them (less expensive than protecting the frontiers).

    I stand corrected.
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  • CindersCinders Registered User regular
    Hmm, would the Meiji Restoration have happened without America?
  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    I have been arguing with a friend about the american revolution for the last hour. Their train of thought has no logical connections and they are unable to respond to any point I make. Why am I doing this to myself? This is a person who is otherwise intelligent so I have this weird hope that eventually a light will turn on and they will see that they are not making any sense.

    The crux of their whole argument is that the american revolution was one of the greatest things to ever happen in modern history. If it wasn't immigrants would have never came to America and WWII would have been lost.

    There is such a poor grasp of history there and yet such a strong conviction that she's right. Then again I have to remind myself that this is the same person who said that Japanese internment camps made sense and couldn't understand why an entire room of people were in awe at her comment.

    hmm... that one is tricky.

    Just because without the American revolution all the long, complicated years leading up to ww2 would be different. So very different.

    Yeah, that's a super dumb stance to take.

    Mostly because it is sort of correct but also incredibly not, as the picture of Europe in the 19th century would not be one we recognize if Britain hadn't wasted so much time and money and blood over here.

    Also if Thomas Paine had been killed in New England he never would've gotten his hands on the French.

    It is an interesting thought experience, but that is such a silly position. Sort of like saying that if Hitler had won WW2 there'd have been no 9/11.

    Indeed.
    Also, would there have been an expansionist, imperial Japan in the early 1900s (including their siding with the allies in WW1) without the American Admiral Perry?
    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    making a very small amount of coconut macarones with a spare egg white

    it is kind of hard work to whip the egg white stiff by hand

    especially since I don't have powdered sugar and use regular
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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    I have been arguing with a friend about the american revolution for the last hour. Their train of thought has no logical connections and they are unable to respond to any point I make. Why am I doing this to myself? This is a person who is otherwise intelligent so I have this weird hope that eventually a light will turn on and they will see that they are not making any sense.

    The crux of their whole argument is that the american revolution was one of the greatest things to ever happen in modern history. If it wasn't immigrants would have never came to America and WWII would have been lost.

    There is such a poor grasp of history there and yet such a strong conviction that she's right. Then again I have to remind myself that this is the same person who said that Japanese internment camps made sense and couldn't understand why an entire room of people were in awe at her comment.

    hmm... that one is tricky.

    Just because without the American revolution all the long, complicated years leading up to ww2 would be different. So very different.

    Yeah, that's a super dumb stance to take.

    Mostly because it is sort of correct but also incredibly not, as the picture of Europe in the 19th century would not be one we recognize if Britain hadn't wasted so much time and money and blood over here.

    Also if Thomas Paine had been killed in New England he never would've gotten his hands on the French.

    It is an interesting thought experience, but that is such a silly position. Sort of like saying that if Hitler had won WW2 there'd have been no 9/11.

    Indeed.
    Also, would there have been an expansionist, imperial Japan in the early 1900s (including their siding with the allies in WW1) without the American Admiral Perry?

    Indeed, a very interesting thought experiment.
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  • WinkyWinky Registered User regular
    I have been arguing with a friend about the american revolution for the last hour. Their train of thought has no logical connections and they are unable to respond to any point I make. Why am I doing this to myself? This is a person who is otherwise intelligent so I have this weird hope that eventually a light will turn on and they will see that they are not making any sense.

    The crux of their whole argument is that the american revolution was one of the greatest things to ever happen in modern history. If it wasn't immigrants would have never came to America and WWII would have been lost.

    There is such a poor grasp of history there and yet such a strong conviction that she's right. Then again I have to remind myself that this is the same person who said that Japanese internment camps made sense and couldn't understand why an entire room of people were in awe at her comment.

    hmm... that one is tricky.

    Just because without the American revolution all the long, complicated years leading up to ww2 would be different. So very different.

    Yeah, that's a super dumb stance to take.

    Mostly because it is sort of correct but also incredibly not, as the picture of Europe in the 19th century would not be one we recognize if Britain hadn't wasted so much time and money and blood over here.

    Also if Thomas Paine had been killed in New England he never would've gotten his hands on the French.

    It is an interesting thought experience, but that is such a silly position. Sort of like saying that if Hitler had won WW2 there'd have been no 9/11.

    Indeed.
    Also, would there have been an expansionist, imperial Japan in the early 1900s (including their siding with the allies in WW1) without the American Admiral Perry?

    This is sort of the historical counterfactual equivalent of finding the butterfly that started the typhoon.
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  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    btw, for anyone interested in the subject the book "The American Revolution" by Bruce Lancaster is excellent.
    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    Honk wrote: »
    TTODewback wrote: »
    I already knew half of these facts but cool anyways
    http://imgur.com/gallery/WDv6D

    The doritos thing is extremely dumb if true. Like we could make these so people were more clean after eating them but we think people love getting grease on all their stuff / washing their hands often.

    I can't see how it could be true. The powder is the cheese, tomato and seasoning that gives the chip their taste. Otherwise they're just corn chips. Seriously, lick all the powder off a chip, then eat a chip. It doesn't taste like a Dorito, it just tastes like corn.
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  • LudiousLudious Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    TL DR wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    ...can you actually be addicted to soda?

    you can be addicted to anything, you can't be CHEMICALLY addicted to anything

    I'm

    pretty sure this doesn't actually mean anything

    Perhaps I worded it poorly but there is Behavioral addiction and Chemical Dependency.

    I mean if you want to get super literal you could say we're all just bags of chemicals and everything is a chemical response you can go that route

    But here in the real world where we don't smoke weed all day and consider the atoms of our left nutsack, there is a difference. The two can intersect but they can be wholly independent.
    Ludious on
    Google Talk: ludious83 My Blog: The Caustic Geek
  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    I have been arguing with a friend about the american revolution for the last hour. Their train of thought has no logical connections and they are unable to respond to any point I make. Why am I doing this to myself? This is a person who is otherwise intelligent so I have this weird hope that eventually a light will turn on and they will see that they are not making any sense.

    The crux of their whole argument is that the american revolution was one of the greatest things to ever happen in modern history. If it wasn't immigrants would have never came to America and WWII would have been lost.

    There is such a poor grasp of history there and yet such a strong conviction that she's right. Then again I have to remind myself that this is the same person who said that Japanese internment camps made sense and couldn't understand why an entire room of people were in awe at her comment.

    hmm... that one is tricky.

    Just because without the American revolution all the long, complicated years leading up to ww2 would be different. So very different.

    Yeah, that's a super dumb stance to take.

    Mostly because it is sort of correct but also incredibly not, as the picture of Europe in the 19th century would not be one we recognize if Britain hadn't wasted so much time and money and blood over here.

    Also if Thomas Paine had been killed in New England he never would've gotten his hands on the French.

    It is an interesting thought experience, but that is such a silly position. Sort of like saying that if Hitler had won WW2 there'd have been no 9/11.

    Indeed.
    Also, would there have been an expansionist, imperial Japan in the early 1900s (including their siding with the allies in WW1) without the American Admiral Perry?

    This is sort of the historical counterfactual equivalent of finding the butterfly that started the typhoon.

    The further back in history you go the more a single thread can unravel the whole damn quilt.
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  • TL DRTL DR Registered User regular
    Dudeward I always forget you're an Ohioan
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  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    ongoing impressions of assassins' creed 3:
    okay, so i am at new york now. I just finished the jail mission. and all of a sudden politics are being injected into my ac game. what the fuck is that shit?

    english accent history guy went from being an endearing comic foil to a pompous ass in like 3 minutes

    i mean, i literally thought to myself "oh wow, some writer discovered A People's History of the United States"

    I don't know what in particular you are referring to, but without a doubt the founding fathers were a bunch of douchebags, even the mostly cool ones.
    it was a series of conversations with his character and an email that opened with "the crazy party" (or something similar) and ended with "and liberals are bad too!"

    by modern standards i suppose, yes. but i dont think that's a bad thing. society is supposed to progress, and all that.

    i already know about how hypocritical and fucked up the beginning of the US was. I took american history from the stereotypical angry first year associate professor who's ready to open some minds.

    i just want my ac games to be some jumpy stabby swordfighty with some sweet action scenes, cryptic messages and mysteries, and a huge dose of conspiracy. dont preach to me.


    (it has been a great game so far other than that little speed bump, i'll add. i'm disappointed that AC4 is going with a new character instead of expanding this one like they did with Ezio. We need one set in like the war of 1812 or whatever!)
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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    TL DR wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    ...can you actually be addicted to soda?

    you can be addicted to anything, you can't be CHEMICALLY addicted to anything

    I'm

    pretty sure this doesn't actually mean anything

    Perhaps I worded it poorly but there is Behavioral addiction and Chemical Dependency.

    I mean if you want to get super literal you could say we're all just bags of chemicals and everything is a chemical response you can go that route

    But here in the real world where we don't smoke weed all day and consider the atoms of our left nutsack, there is a difference. The two can intersect but they can be wholly independent.

    i think your clarification was enough.

    but to take the edge off of your post. a lot of people say that the different types of addictions have varying levels of (for lack of a better word) difficulty.

    chemical dependency = hard mode

    behavioral addiction = ez mode

    which is obviously not true but that sort of rhetoric gets tossed around.
    Yet that is exactly what i see here.
  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    another thought, without the American Revolution I doubt the French would have turned out the same way. Or maybe happened at all. And so you might not get Napoleon and without him you don't get 1870 and without that you don't get WW1 and therefore no WW2.
    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • descdesc the '87 stick-up kids Registered User regular
    Butts
  • HonkHonk Registered User regular
    There was this tv show and on an episode there was a girl who was addicted to eating laundry detergent.

    So seems like people can get addicted to pretty much everything.
  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    Dudeward I always forget you're an Ohioan

    I have not forgotten that you are.

    So you know. Feel that
    Yet that is exactly what i see here.
  • Knuckle DraggerKnuckle Dragger Explosive Ovine Disposal Registered User regular
    If we had lost the revolution, WWII as we know it would not have been fought. Genetics are a fickle thing, and while there would have been a Bismark, Franz Ferdinand and all the rest, they very likely would not have been the same men we knew. The chances of our 20th century figures being born is vanishingly slim.
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  • MimMim Registered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    Butts

    and I cannot lie
  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    There is a small, but very much nonzero, risk of serious complications. And having had chicken pox as a kid makes you far more likely to get Shingles as an adult which really sucks.

    I thought that the opposite was true.
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  • TTODewbackTTODewback Pink haired tyrant On my throne of forum faces.Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Honk wrote: »
    TTODewback wrote: »
    I already knew half of these facts but cool anyways
    http://imgur.com/gallery/WDv6D

    The doritos thing is extremely dumb if true. Like we could make these so people were more clean after eating them but we think people love getting grease on all their stuff / washing their hands often.

    I can't see how it could be true. The powder is the cheese, tomato and seasoning that gives the chip their taste. Otherwise they're just corn chips. Seriously, lick all the powder off a chip, then eat a chip. It doesn't taste like a Dorito, it just tastes like corn.

    I think they actually could make em where the shit was baked into the corn chip but then was like "nahhhhh lets leave them powdery because we're assholes"
    TTODewback on
  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    another thought, without the American Revolution I doubt the French would have turned out the same way. Or maybe happened at all. And so you might not get Napoleon and without him you don't get 1870 and without that you don't get WW1 and therefore no WW2.

    Since the French Revolution made Thomas Paine rethink that whole "God put me here to free mankind" bullshit, I imagine that a bloodier end in the US would've stopped that right up. It probably would have been a period of civil unrest, but I doubt it would have been the kind of horror that history saw.

    Alternate history is kind of fun.
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  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    There is a small, but very much nonzero, risk of serious complications. And having had chicken pox as a kid makes you far more likely to get Shingles as an adult which really sucks.

    I thought that the opposite was true.

    nope, Shingles is caused by the dormant chicken pox virus in your system leftover after having the disease.

    Vaccination against chicken pox helps (though you need boosters for that eventually) and there is another vaccination against shingles. Even when the chicken pox vaccine isn't 100% effective it results in milder illness and so less chance of Shingles later in life.
    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • TTODewbackTTODewback Pink haired tyrant On my throne of forum faces.Registered User regular
    The only thing about "alternate" history you need to know is that changing anything probably would make shit even worst.\
    Oh look guys, I killed Hitler.
    Oh look suddenly western europe is a nuclear wasteland
    What the fuck happened there guys?
    Oh wait you're all dead.
    POOORRRRRR QUEEEEEEEEE
  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    desc wrote: »
    Butts

    and I cannot lie

    amiiii chaaaaan (*°∀°)=3
    Yet that is exactly what i see here.
  • LudiousLudious Registered User regular
    if I wanted to take the edges off my post, I wouldn't post, and if people get cut on the edges of my posts they ignored the clearly denoted warning signs

    also I wasn't being super serial I just wanted to make a hippie joke, it's more of a ritual than anything.

    Timothy says something to me, I respond and add a dirty hippie joke.
    Google Talk: ludious83 My Blog: The Caustic Geek
  • SarksusSarksus TEN FUCKING DOLLARS Registered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Mim wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    ...can you actually be addicted to soda?

    As a soda addict, yes. Maybe it's the caffeine and not drinking it will give you headaches or maybe it's all psychological because that fizzy burn is the one happy thing in your entire wretched life but yes.

    You just made me crave a coke.

    Damn youuuu

    Wow. Now if only I could do the same with another similar word.

    Badumtish!

    Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd I need an adult.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQOiyakjox8
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