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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    I did an entire load of clothes for work, and I left them in the dryer.

    They're all going to be completely wrinkled.

    I can't bring myself to go get them out. It's too much work.
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  • MortiousMortious Move to New Zealand Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Mortious wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    Deebaser wrote: »
    spoiler tags for current episodes in tv threads ruin the thread

    there i said it

    but clicking 80 spoiler buttons a page is super fun!

    Could you start a thread called "UNTAGGED SPOILER THREAD, YEA THERE BE DRAGONS INSIDE

    As far as I know, yes.

    As long as you specify the rules in the OP


    The OP will just be SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE.

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  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy Registered User regular
    The us prison population statistic is bullshit and is around because other countries lie and because of dumb statistics. Chinas official figure is that they have one of the lowest incarceration rates in the world (bullshit) and north Korea doesn't include their political prisoner camps (they're actually well ahead of us per capita).

    well that sure is fab that we might be doing better than north korea and china with regard to how many of our citizens we imprison
  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    It's no surprise that Canada has a bit of a complex.

    Being so close to America probably makes it hard to love your own country.

    I'm super glad I don't live in the US.

    like wow.

    Your healthcare situation is terrifying. Many of my family would have died or lost everything to pay for treatment.

    I mean I'd take that risk if I could live in Kentucky and get cheap amazing bourbon but whatever.
  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    You can't count North Korea, the entire country is a prison. The trustees just have it a lot better than gen pop.
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    I did an entire load of clothes for work, and I left them in the dryer.

    They're all going to be completely wrinkled.

    I can't bring myself to go get them out. It's too much work.

    I open the door to the washing machine (no dryer)

    I generally let them "dry" that way for some time.
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  • OrganichuOrganichu Registered User regular
    in a country as big and regionally autonomous as america i think most people express their pride in a very balkanized way. lots of people really a big fan of their coast or their state or their nearest metropolis, or what have you. as a liberal northeastern elitist who lives new york and boston, the south is hardly even an element of my idea of 'i like america'. i don't really buy 'a chain is only as strong as its weakest link' in this context. except in abstract, academic discussions, it's not all that interesting to me. what life is like for a family in a football town in west texas is almost irrelevant to what it's like for a low income youth in south central los angeles or a professional bachelor in washington dc.

    i like that america is big and varied and there's a lot of stuff for almost every appetite- that i could stay in my country and see every biome, every climate, every sensibility, etc. i like the diversity, the breadth of our artistic and scientific achievements (regardless of whether they 'belong' to humanity at large some of them are necessarily implanted in a local way, like american bands touring here or high tech city centers or whatever).

    i don't like that we have so many evangelist bigots or anti-intellectual weirdos, of course, but again that's not something that ever touches me because i live a long way from any of those hotbeds. i don't like how hard it is to travel- how expensive and tedious a process it is to visit other countries, versus living in france. not a fan of the inferior social safety nets, stuff like worker rights and support for the low income.

    the aggregate stuff (national ranking in this or that) is really hard to express or explore in an interesting way.
  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary Your Dark Descent FriendRegistered User regular
    I find cherry picking ideas from different religions and remaining spiritual in the sense of believing in something more then myself, whether that be a God or just another layer of existence beyond our own and being in harmony with it, to be preferable to being agnostic (which I look at as lazy) atheist (which is what I would be if I chose to no longer be a deist and is of course filled with it's own pros and cons) or part of an organized religious framework (lots of obvious cons there).

    I grew up Catholic with my grandparents on my mother's side being devout United Church members and after going through that tension between them and the hilariously bad attempts by Catholic run schools to teach me how to live and think about stuff like abortion and gays, I flirted with Buddhism for a while before deciding to just throw up my hands, screw the middle man and commit myself to believing whatever I wanted to believe and felt was the right course for my philosophical and spiritual life.

    I could never see myself staying a Catholic after I gave it a fair shake and read the Catechism and the Bible and even considered giving the priesthood a look after being an altar boy when I was younger. There was just too many questions that my religion teacher in high school would answer with "God will sort it out" and too much BS when it came to moral questions. I am fortunate I guess in that my immediate family was never very religious, but even if they were, I can't see myself accepting it forever.
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  • MadCaddyMadCaddy Riksadvokate Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    It's no surprise that Canada has a bit of a complex.

    Being so close to America probably makes it hard to love your own country.

    I'm super glad I don't live in the US.

    like wow.

    Your healthcare situation is terrifying. Many of my family would have died or lost everything to pay for treatment.

    I mean I'd take that risk if I could live in Kentucky and get cheap amazing bourbon but whatever.

    Crown Royal is like maple syrup. I do love when you get the ones with the velvet bag.
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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    I did an entire load of clothes for work, and I left them in the dryer.

    They're all going to be completely wrinkled.

    I can't bring myself to go get them out. It's too much work.

    Soak a hand towel, throw it in, turn the dryer on delicates, and steam them unwrinkled
  • CindersCinders Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    It's no surprise that Canada has a bit of a complex.

    Being so close to America probably makes it hard to love your own country.

    I'm super glad I don't live in the US.

    like wow.

    Your healthcare situation is terrifying. Many of my family would have died or lost everything to pay for treatment.

    I mean I'd take that risk if I could live in Kentucky and get cheap amazing bourbon but whatever.

    My healthcare situation terrifies me whenever I think about it.
  • OrganichuOrganichu Registered User regular
    Kagera wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    spoiler tags for current episodes in tv threads ruin the thread

    there i said it

    Oh so you want people who are in different time zones or have to work to be spoiled or not be able to read the thread.

    That's great Ceddy, real great.

    why would they read the thread if they hadn't watched the episode

    so they can read stuff like "man i thought it was interesting when [spoilers]"?

    Discuss previous episodes, share views on character and story development, rep your ship.

    it seems reasonable to me that they can go without doing this for the couple hours or day or so it takes them to see the most recent ep.
  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    I did an entire load of clothes for work, and I left them in the dryer.

    They're all going to be completely wrinkled.

    I can't bring myself to go get them out. It's too much work.

    I open the door to the washing machine (no dryer)

    I generally let them "dry" that way for some time.

    I'm gonna look like I slept in my clothes, all week long.

    Or I'm going to have to iron. Man, this is bullshit either way. :(
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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Corehealer wrote: »
    I find cherry picking ideas from different religions and remaining spiritual in the sense of believing in something more then myself, whether that be a God or just another layer of existence beyond our own and being in harmony with it, to be preferable to being agnostic (which I look at as lazy) atheist (which is what I would be if I chose to no longer be a deist and is of course filled with it's own pros and cons) or part of an organized religious framework (lots of obvious cons there).

    I grew up Catholic with my grandparents on my mother's side being devout United Church members and after going through that tension between them and the hilariously bad attempts by Catholic run schools to teach me how to live and think about stuff like abortion and gays, I flirted with Buddhism for a while before deciding to just throw up my hands, screw the middle man and commit myself to believing whatever I wanted to believe and felt was the right course for my philosophical and spiritual life.

    I could never see myself staying a Catholic after I gave it a fair shake and read the Catechism and the Bible and even considered giving the priesthood a look after being an altar boy when I was younger. There was just too many questions that my religion teacher in high school would answer with "God will sort it out" and too much BS when it came to moral questions. I am fortunate I guess in that my immediate family was never very religious, but even if they were, I can't see myself accepting it forever.

    ahah!

    atheist versus agnostic now there's something I could talk about.

    But won't.

    anyway if someone asks I'll say atheist even though I'm technically agnostic. Since people think they mean what you seem to think they mean :P
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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Crown Royal is fucking garbage

    As is all Canadian whisky

    FOR FUCK'S SAKE COUNTRYMEN STOP PUTTING SHITTY CARAMEL IN YOUR GODDAMN WHISKY
  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    spoiler tags for current episodes in tv threads ruin the thread

    there i said it

    Oh so you want people who are in different time zones or have to work to be spoiled or not be able to read the thread.

    That's great Ceddy, real great.

    why would they read the thread if they hadn't watched the episode

    so they can read stuff like "man i thought it was interesting when [spoilers]"?

    Discuss previous episodes, share views on character and story development, rep your ship.

    it seems reasonable to me that they can go without doing this for the couple hours or day or so it takes them to see the most recent ep.

    New fans, however, would be screwed.
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  • HamurabiHamurabi Registered User regular
    Are we still doing Patriotism: Different Strokes for Different Jingos ?
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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    My country literally has committed genocide.

    That happened.

    Am I proud of that? No, of course not, that's insane.

    But I'm capable of being proud of the person I am now even though I was a very unfortunate sort at one point and it is completely impossible to divorce the human being I am now from the person I was leading to that.

    A country, viewed as an entity, viewed as a holarchy of individuals, is as flawed, monstrous, or virtuous as any human being. Some are more historically monstrous than others. Some are seen only as virtuous because they've not yet aged enough to disappoint, if you're a cynic.

    But, if a human being can rise above their past by acknowledging, not denying or ignoring, who they have been as part of an effort to strive to be better, not of others but of themselves

    then a collection of people can do the same.
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    I did an entire load of clothes for work, and I left them in the dryer.

    They're all going to be completely wrinkled.

    I can't bring myself to go get them out. It's too much work.

    I open the door to the washing machine (no dryer)

    I generally let them "dry" that way for some time.

    I'm gonna look like I slept in my clothes, all week long.

    Or I'm going to have to iron. Man, this is bullshit either way. :(

    This might just be indicative of the difference in our life situations, but I consider the first thing a bonus since then nobody notices anything different when I do sleep in my clothes.
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  • WinkyWinky Registered User regular
    The Better Angels of Our Nature has a lot of super interesting tid-bits.

    There was a study (I forget what population was being examined) that found that only 10% of all homicides are for some sort of practical reason (as part of a robbery, to silence a witness, etc).

    The other 90% are all carried out in pursuit of the perpetrator's own personal sense of justice (killing a cheating spouse, retribution for a perceived slight, etc).

    It ends up that the thing that would prevent the largest number of killings is if we just learned to forgive each other.
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  • simonwolfsimonwolf Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    spoiler tags for current episodes in tv threads ruin the thread

    there i said it

    Oh so you want people who are in different time zones or have to work to be spoiled or not be able to read the thread.

    That's great Ceddy, real great.

    why would they read the thread if they hadn't watched the episode

    so they can read stuff like "man i thought it was interesting when [spoilers]"?

    Discuss previous episodes, share views on character and story development, rep your ship.

    it seems reasonable to me that they can go without doing this for the couple hours or day or so it takes them to see the most recent ep.

    This is essentially what I do with the Game of Theons thread - I enjoy reading it, but as soon as it hits Monday morning my time, I just don't click on it until I get to watch the latest episode
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  • CindersCinders Registered User regular
    Hmm, my warrior seems to have outleveled the queue for the first instance before I had a chance to actually run it. Whoops.
  • Solomaxwell6Solomaxwell6 Registered User regular
    The us prison population statistic is bullshit and is around because other countries lie and because of dumb statistics. Chinas official figure is that they have one of the lowest incarceration rates in the world (bullshit) and north Korea doesn't include their political prisoner camps (they're actually well ahead of us per capita).

    well that sure is fab that we might be doing better than north korea and china with regard to how many of our citizens we imprison

    I'm not trying to argue that the US is a utopia.

    But any time statistics can possibly be at all manipulated and/or faked to make the US seem more awful than it actually is? Yeah, someone will go ahead and do so. There are at least a handful of countries that are worse off than the US but are hidden behind stupid statistics. And most shitty third world dictatorships simply don't have the resources to lock up as many people as they might want so you can't even compare them to the US.

    The US should work to improve the justice system, but let's not spread bullshit.
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    I choose to interpret that as "90% of murderers fight for justice"
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  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    Holarchy sounds like a government run by holograms.
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  • MadCaddyMadCaddy Riksadvokate Registered User regular
    Man, I do wish I was born in B.C. Every April. Vancouver is the one place I've been I've heavily considered moving up stakes for without any real connections.
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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary Your Dark Descent FriendRegistered User regular
    Canada has plenty of things to be ashamed about; chief among them our treatment of First Nations peoples and the Inuit and Metis. We were not nearly as hamfistedly awful and genocidal as the Americans were in this regard; we never had a Wounded Knee. But we still did plenty of horrible things to the native populations. We exploited the hell out of them for the fur trade and as late as the 50s and 60s were still shipping their kids to schools where we attempted to strip away their cultural heritage and make them nice and white and respectable.

    We've apologized for a lot of it since and made recompense; we even gave the Inuit Nunavut to essentially govern themselves. But we really owe them more then I think we can ever truly repay.
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  • SarksusSarksus TEN FUCKING DOLLARS Registered User regular
    My outlook is directly a result of hearing about good stuff and bad stuff. I have heard more bad stuff. If the amount of bad stuff is over represented, which is possible, then I need to balance what passes through my filter. But I don't know how to find more good stuff.

    How do I find enough good stuff so that Africa, China and the middle east no longer compose a significant percentage of the world's state.
  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy Registered User regular
    i still have healthcare because of obamacare

    thanks obama

    i wonder how much all the specialists i've been to would have cost

    guess i'll find out next year when im on regular people insurance
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Sarksus wrote: »
    My outlook is directly a result of hearing about good stuff and bad stuff. I have heard more bad stuff. If the amount of bad stuff is over represented, which is possible, then I need to balance what passes through my filter. But I don't know how to find more good stuff.

    How do I find enough good stuff so that Africa, China and the middle east no longer compose a significant percentage of the world's state.

    what, do you think the common man in china goes around and suffers all day long?
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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Corehealer wrote: »
    I find cherry picking ideas from different religions and remaining spiritual in the sense of believing in something more then myself, whether that be a God or just another layer of existence beyond our own and being in harmony with it, to be preferable to being agnostic (which I look at as lazy) atheist (which is what I would be if I chose to no longer be a deist and is of course filled with it's own pros and cons) or part of an organized religious framework (lots of obvious cons there).

    I grew up Catholic with my grandparents on my mother's side being devout United Church members and after going through that tension between them and the hilariously bad attempts by Catholic run schools to teach me how to live and think about stuff like abortion and gays, I flirted with Buddhism for a while before deciding to just throw up my hands, screw the middle man and commit myself to believing whatever I wanted to believe and felt was the right course for my philosophical and spiritual life.

    I could never see myself staying a Catholic after I gave it a fair shake and read the Catechism and the Bible and even considered giving the priesthood a look after being an altar boy when I was younger. There was just too many questions that my religion teacher in high school would answer with "God will sort it out" and too much BS when it came to moral questions. I am fortunate I guess in that my immediate family was never very religious, but even if they were, I can't see myself accepting it forever.

    ahah!

    atheist versus agnostic now there's something I could talk about.

    But won't.

    anyway if someone asks I'll say atheist even though I'm technically agnostic. Since people think they mean what you seem to think they mean :P

    in a literal sense i am an atheist and i am also religious because religion itself is not bound to theism, they are different words for a reason

    but trying to get folks to move past that is far too difficult, so i generally just

    don't
  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    seriously though i just made the best post of my career

    i think
    Yet that is exactly what i see here.
  • SarksusSarksus TEN FUCKING DOLLARS Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    My outlook is directly a result of hearing about good stuff and bad stuff. I have heard more bad stuff. If the amount of bad stuff is over represented, which is possible, then I need to balance what passes through my filter. But I don't know how to find more good stuff.

    How do I find enough good stuff so that Africa, China and the middle east no longer compose a significant percentage of the world's state.

    what, do you think the common man in china goes around and suffers all day long?

    I think a significant number of people in Africa, China and the middle east live sub-standard lives.
  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    in a country as big and regionally autonomous as america i think most people express their pride in a very balkanized way. lots of people really a big fan of their coast or their state or their nearest metropolis, or what have you. as a liberal northeastern elitist who lives new york and boston, the south is hardly even an element of my idea of 'i like america'. i don't really buy 'a chain is only as strong as its weakest link' in this context. except in abstract, academic discussions, it's not all that interesting to me. what life is like for a family in a football town in west texas is almost irrelevant to what it's like for a low income youth in south central los angeles or a professional bachelor in washington dc.

    i like that america is big and varied and there's a lot of stuff for almost every appetite- that i could stay in my country and see every biome, every climate, every sensibility, etc. i like the diversity, the breadth of our artistic and scientific achievements (regardless of whether they 'belong' to humanity at large some of them are necessarily implanted in a local way, like american bands touring here or high tech city centers or whatever).

    i don't like that we have so many evangelist bigots or anti-intellectual weirdos, of course, but again that's not something that ever touches me because i live a long way from any of those hotbeds. i don't like how hard it is to travel- how expensive and tedious a process it is to visit other countries, versus living in france. not a fan of the inferior social safety nets, stuff like worker rights and support for the low income.

    the aggregate stuff (national ranking in this or that) is really hard to express or explore in an interesting way.

    If you could tour though the south and turn off the preconceptions, I think you would be amazed and gratified by what you find. You would like it down here, especially as a vacationer.


    I was frequently surprised by how much the idea of Europeans visiting other countries is similar in, distance and finances, to me visiting Dallas or New Orleans or Memphis. Also surprised by just how vastly different the people are in that small range of distance.
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  • wanderingwandering Registered User regular
    The song Lola isn't considered offensive is it? It's always struck me as a pretty accepting song especially considering it was written like forty years ago

    when the dude finds out that the cool lady he is attracted to isn't a cisgendered lady he isn't like, "oh no!" Instead he's totally cool with it.

    Actually come to think of it maybe he freaks out at first, maybe that's what's happening when he pushes Lola away and runs? But ultimatley he's cool with it.

    Maybe the line about Lola almost breaking his spine is painting Lola as too much of a caricature? And maybe the line "I'm a man and so is Lola" is implying that trans women aren't real women? but then maybe Lola isn't a trans woman but instead a dude who wears women's clothing, and anyway I figure you have to give something written in the 70s a little bit of slack?
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  • Solomaxwell6Solomaxwell6 Registered User regular
    Sarksus wrote: »
    My outlook is directly a result of hearing about good stuff and bad stuff. I have heard more bad stuff. If the amount of bad stuff is over represented, which is possible, then I need to balance what passes through my filter. But I don't know how to find more good stuff.

    How do I find enough good stuff so that Africa, China and the middle east no longer compose a significant percentage of the world's state.

    Take half of the time you normally spend reading bad stuff in the news

    Spend that time on /r/aww
  • CindersCinders Registered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Corehealer wrote: »
    I find cherry picking ideas from different religions and remaining spiritual in the sense of believing in something more then myself, whether that be a God or just another layer of existence beyond our own and being in harmony with it, to be preferable to being agnostic (which I look at as lazy) atheist (which is what I would be if I chose to no longer be a deist and is of course filled with it's own pros and cons) or part of an organized religious framework (lots of obvious cons there).

    I grew up Catholic with my grandparents on my mother's side being devout United Church members and after going through that tension between them and the hilariously bad attempts by Catholic run schools to teach me how to live and think about stuff like abortion and gays, I flirted with Buddhism for a while before deciding to just throw up my hands, screw the middle man and commit myself to believing whatever I wanted to believe and felt was the right course for my philosophical and spiritual life.

    I could never see myself staying a Catholic after I gave it a fair shake and read the Catechism and the Bible and even considered giving the priesthood a look after being an altar boy when I was younger. There was just too many questions that my religion teacher in high school would answer with "God will sort it out" and too much BS when it came to moral questions. I am fortunate I guess in that my immediate family was never very religious, but even if they were, I can't see myself accepting it forever.

    ahah!

    atheist versus agnostic now there's something I could talk about.

    But won't.

    anyway if someone asks I'll say atheist even though I'm technically agnostic. Since people think they mean what you seem to think they mean :P

    in a literal sense i am an atheist and i am also religious because religion itself is not bound to theism, they are different words for a reason

    but trying to get folks to move past that is far too difficult, so i generally just

    don't

    Trying to have a conversation about the meaning of agnosticism with my angry atheist friend was fun.
  • simonwolfsimonwolf Registered User regular
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    My outlook is directly a result of hearing about good stuff and bad stuff. I have heard more bad stuff. If the amount of bad stuff is over represented, which is possible, then I need to balance what passes through my filter. But I don't know how to find more good stuff.

    How do I find enough good stuff so that Africa, China and the middle east no longer compose a significant percentage of the world's state.

    what, do you think the common man in china goes around and suffers all day long?

    I think a significant number of people in Africa, China and the middle east live sub-standard lives.

    Well, they're probably closer to the worldwide average standard of living than you are
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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary Your Dark Descent FriendRegistered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Other things Canada should be ashamed of:

    - Our inability to control our own natural resources; we basically sell most of it off to US companies and other nations wholesale and don't get as good a deal as we should on a lot of it, especially lumber.

    - Our treatment of Quebec, even if separatists overblow it. It's a dumb rivalry.

    - Our being in Afghanistan at all.

    - A lot of shit to do with environmental controls in the Arctic, stemming from mining.

    - Our support of Israel and subsequently it's apartheid system. Call it anti-Semitic all you want, it's a disgraceful situation and I can't believe our government ignores it just because the US does for strategic reasons.
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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Corehealer wrote: »
    I find cherry picking ideas from different religions and remaining spiritual in the sense of believing in something more then myself, whether that be a God or just another layer of existence beyond our own and being in harmony with it, to be preferable to being agnostic (which I look at as lazy) atheist (which is what I would be if I chose to no longer be a deist and is of course filled with it's own pros and cons) or part of an organized religious framework (lots of obvious cons there).

    I grew up Catholic with my grandparents on my mother's side being devout United Church members and after going through that tension between them and the hilariously bad attempts by Catholic run schools to teach me how to live and think about stuff like abortion and gays, I flirted with Buddhism for a while before deciding to just throw up my hands, screw the middle man and commit myself to believing whatever I wanted to believe and felt was the right course for my philosophical and spiritual life.

    I could never see myself staying a Catholic after I gave it a fair shake and read the Catechism and the Bible and even considered giving the priesthood a look after being an altar boy when I was younger. There was just too many questions that my religion teacher in high school would answer with "God will sort it out" and too much BS when it came to moral questions. I am fortunate I guess in that my immediate family was never very religious, but even if they were, I can't see myself accepting it forever.

    ahah!

    atheist versus agnostic now there's something I could talk about.

    But won't.

    anyway if someone asks I'll say atheist even though I'm technically agnostic. Since people think they mean what you seem to think they mean :P

    in a literal sense i am an atheist and i am also religious because religion itself is not bound to theism, they are different words for a reason

    but trying to get folks to move past that is far too difficult, so i generally just

    don't

    also agnostic literally means not believing in any absolute truths - there absolutely is a god, there absolutely isn't

    since both those positions are ludicrous - you can't prove a god, but you also can't disprove a god

    but people interpret that as "I'm not sure if I'm religious or not"

    which is most assuredly not my position.
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