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Thomamelas · May 2013

ronya wrote: »

Abdhyius wrote: »

I think google glass looks horrid.

also, gimme my goddamn illusive man lenses already what's the goddamn holdup.

laser eye surgery

Hmm...Shadowrun.

ronya · May 2013

once nerve interfaces become non-terrible, I can guess quite a lot of people are going to want to dispense with large parts of their fleshy selves

Abdhyius · May 2013

is there a service to have classy ladies wash your car

like, they're wearing classy black dresses and are smoking cigarettes with a holder

visiblehowl · May 2013

Donkey Kong wrote: »

visiblehowl wrote: »

I'll be honest, I think that tumblr is dumb.

Most people look dumb when someone takes a picture of them, and especially when they take pictures of themselves. The google glasses (or wait, it's singular? google glass? whatever) have almost nothing to do with the people looking stupid in those photographs, they're bad pictures regardless.

Frankly I don't think the device itself looks that bad.

It looks like an accessory out of a mad for TV scifi movie. You could play it up for retro fashion like fingerless gloves or something but at the end of the day, it looks stupid. And it implies that you need a screen in front of your face 24/7. It's like walking around with a feedbag on. No matter how enjoyable or convenient, it implies a certain lack of self control.

Really? I dunno, I guess I don't get the last part. Does anybody doubt that this is the future? Or rather, doesn't everybody want the equivalent of google glass but without the stupid looking accessory? Why does wearing it now imply a lack of self control, when presumably everybody is going to want it if/when it becomes contact lenses, i.e. less noticeable?

matt has a problem · May 2013

Deebaser wrote: »

Hamurabi wrote: »

Irond Will wrote: »

So It Goes wrote: »

Deebaser wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

Irond Will wrote: »

Hamurabi wrote: »

http://jezebel.com/this-is-what-happens-if-you-question-crossfits-tough-493110075

the day i fail to eyeroll at jezebel content

is the day my eye muscles are paralyzed

jezebel handwringing is fucking hilarious will

The comments are fantastits

"Dear god, your obscure puckish humor has made all my fears about social injustice and institutionalized oppression go away," said nobody ever.

Now for grownup talk...

1. Doesn't matter where the term came from. It's essentializing by coding woman-ness (something women should identify as being for them and about them) to tits. It's wrong because it is ableist and reductionist.

2. The letter writing customer does have a huge sense of entitlement...she feels she is entitled to not have reductionist labels invade a place she pays to sweat in. She feels entitled to safety from people who administer the fitness space she has purchased a membership in. She feels entitled to raise an objection to institutionalized misogyny. She is entitled (as a paying customer of a business operating in the US) to all of these things.

3. Just one is pretty meaningless when it comes to justice. She is a person. Her personhood doesn't need a "Mob" stacked modifier in order to count.

4. It's nice you have the privilege of not finding someone reducing you to a sophomoric body part label offensive. For most people, that means they're being dehumanized. Glad you have a greater experience of safety. Most people don't. Your experience does not determine the correctness of hers. That disconnect and dehumanization is part of why this kind of labeling behavior is offensive.

5. A customer acquires a product for a variety of reasons...in most cases, those reasons do not include seeking a corollary series of abusive behaviors and encounters. I do suspect she's wondering why she's there too, now.

6. More offense does not excuse offense. It may camouflage it, but it sure doesn't excuse it.

7. Toughness doesn't mean you abandon ethics. Toughness means you stand by the right thing, you do the right thing, you call out the people who are doing the wrong thing and you stand tall against bullies and thoughtless people. This customer gave the gym a wake-up call. They hit snooze and rolled over. That's not a recipe for success in any business. Hopefully she can just take her business elsewhere.

I can't believe the gym's response to her request to change a class name was just "tough tits, we ain't changing it"

you really can't believe that crossfit dudes acted like macho dicks?

I can quite easily believe a gym class essentially called "Tough Tits" told her "tough tits."

Jezebel Writer: I am offended by the name of your class. Pls Chang
Class Instructor: No thx
JW: BUT UR MISOGINISM! I ws thinking bout joining your gym
Gym Owner: Go away

I'm outraged!

Nobody cares.

I'm outraged nobody cares!

Evil Multifarious · May 2013

Man I would wear a Google glass monocle

That would be DOPE

Hamurabi · May 2013

Deebaser wrote: »

Hamurabi wrote: »

Irond Will wrote: »

So It Goes wrote: »

Deebaser wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

Irond Will wrote: »

Hamurabi wrote: »

http://jezebel.com/this-is-what-happens-if-you-question-crossfits-tough-493110075

the day i fail to eyeroll at jezebel content

is the day my eye muscles are paralyzed

jezebel handwringing is fucking hilarious will

The comments are fantastits

"Dear god, your obscure puckish humor has made all my fears about social injustice and institutionalized oppression go away," said nobody ever.

Now for grownup talk...

1. Doesn't matter where the term came from. It's essentializing by coding woman-ness (something women should identify as being for them and about them) to tits. It's wrong because it is ableist and reductionist.

2. The letter writing customer does have a huge sense of entitlement...she feels she is entitled to not have reductionist labels invade a place she pays to sweat in. She feels entitled to safety from people who administer the fitness space she has purchased a membership in. She feels entitled to raise an objection to institutionalized misogyny. She is entitled (as a paying customer of a business operating in the US) to all of these things.

3. Just one is pretty meaningless when it comes to justice. She is a person. Her personhood doesn't need a "Mob" stacked modifier in order to count.

4. It's nice you have the privilege of not finding someone reducing you to a sophomoric body part label offensive. For most people, that means they're being dehumanized. Glad you have a greater experience of safety. Most people don't. Your experience does not determine the correctness of hers. That disconnect and dehumanization is part of why this kind of labeling behavior is offensive.

5. A customer acquires a product for a variety of reasons...in most cases, those reasons do not include seeking a corollary series of abusive behaviors and encounters. I do suspect she's wondering why she's there too, now.

6. More offense does not excuse offense. It may camouflage it, but it sure doesn't excuse it.

7. Toughness doesn't mean you abandon ethics. Toughness means you stand by the right thing, you do the right thing, you call out the people who are doing the wrong thing and you stand tall against bullies and thoughtless people. This customer gave the gym a wake-up call. They hit snooze and rolled over. That's not a recipe for success in any business. Hopefully she can just take her business elsewhere.

I can't believe the gym's response to her request to change a class name was just "tough tits, we ain't changing it"

you really can't believe that crossfit dudes acted like macho dicks?

I can quite easily believe a gym class essentially called "Tough Tits" told her "tough tits."

Jezebel Writer: I am offended by the name of your class. Pls Chang
Class Instructor: No thx
JW: BUT UR MISOGINISM! I ws thinking bout joining your gym
Gym Owner: Go away

I mean, everyone comes off looking bad, but the article itself is 100% par for the course in terms of the alarmist, low-brow chauvinism trolling that gets Jezebel its pageviews.

Kalkino · May 2013

Google Glass is ok, but I am really looking forward to when Google starts building little spiders with cameras that constantly climb all over my body, filming everything at different angles for some reason, then whispering into my ear anything important that they've observed

visiblehowl · May 2013

matt has a problem wrote: »

visiblehowl wrote: »

matt has a problem wrote: »

$80 is a ripoff to clean a car.

I mean really, legitimately hand wash and clean a car.

And in a bikini too.

I wouldn't do it for less than $250.

Why would I pay you $250 when I could pay a team of high school girls twenty bucks for the same service at basically any random parking lot in the summer?

You're not paying them to wash your car.

Presumably if he wants you to wear a bikini, he's not really paying you to wash his car either.

Abdhyius · May 2013

if you have a class named tough tits

if someone complains, it doesn't matter if you think the name was a mistake and agree that it should be changed

you can't not say "tough tits, we're not changing it"

Gooey · May 2013

Evil Multifarious wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

So It Goes wrote: »

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/crg/3788571892.html

uhhh

80 bux is 80 bux sig

I think SiG is getting a bit old for this kind of gig

So It Goes · May 2013

Irond Will wrote: »

So It Goes wrote: »

Deebaser wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

Irond Will wrote: »

Hamurabi wrote: »

http://jezebel.com/this-is-what-happens-if-you-question-crossfits-tough-493110075

the day i fail to eyeroll at jezebel content

is the day my eye muscles are paralyzed

jezebel handwringing is fucking hilarious will

The comments are fantastits

"Dear god, your obscure puckish humor has made all my fears about social injustice and institutionalized oppression go away," said nobody ever.

Now for grownup talk...

1. Doesn't matter where the term came from. It's essentializing by coding woman-ness (something women should identify as being for them and about them) to tits. It's wrong because it is ableist and reductionist.

2. The letter writing customer does have a huge sense of entitlement...she feels she is entitled to not have reductionist labels invade a place she pays to sweat in. She feels entitled to safety from people who administer the fitness space she has purchased a membership in. She feels entitled to raise an objection to institutionalized misogyny. She is entitled (as a paying customer of a business operating in the US) to all of these things.

3. Just one is pretty meaningless when it comes to justice. She is a person. Her personhood doesn't need a "Mob" stacked modifier in order to count.

4. It's nice you have the privilege of not finding someone reducing you to a sophomoric body part label offensive. For most people, that means they're being dehumanized. Glad you have a greater experience of safety. Most people don't. Your experience does not determine the correctness of hers. That disconnect and dehumanization is part of why this kind of labeling behavior is offensive.

5. A customer acquires a product for a variety of reasons...in most cases, those reasons do not include seeking a corollary series of abusive behaviors and encounters. I do suspect she's wondering why she's there too, now.

6. More offense does not excuse offense. It may camouflage it, but it sure doesn't excuse it.

7. Toughness doesn't mean you abandon ethics. Toughness means you stand by the right thing, you do the right thing, you call out the people who are doing the wrong thing and you stand tall against bullies and thoughtless people. This customer gave the gym a wake-up call. They hit snooze and rolled over. That's not a recipe for success in any business. Hopefully she can just take her business elsewhere.

I can't believe the gym's response to her request to change a class name was just "tough tits, we ain't changing it"

you really can't believe that crossfit dudes acted like macho dicks?

ohhh god my failure to type "wasn't" ruined my joke!!

Hamurabi · May 2013

The online application for this chain of donut stores has fully twelve pages of 'do you agree with this statement' questions wtfffffff

visiblehowl · May 2013

wait what happened on 4/19/13

matt has a problem · May 2013

visiblehowl wrote: »

matt has a problem wrote: »

visiblehowl wrote: »

matt has a problem wrote: »

$80 is a ripoff to clean a car.

I mean really, legitimately hand wash and clean a car.

And in a bikini too.

I wouldn't do it for less than $250.

Why would I pay you $250 when I could pay a team of high school girls twenty bucks for the same service at basically any random parking lot in the summer?

You're not paying them to wash your car.

Presumably if he wants you to wear a bikini, he's not really paying you to wash his car either.

Which is why only getting $80 is a ripoff either way.

Abdhyius · May 2013

I literally cannot believe that the gym's response wasn't "tough tits."

I am sad now. You could have led me live in blissful ignorance, sig, but you didn't. Cruel of you.

Irond Will · May 2013

Ludious wrote: »

as far as I'm concerned Google Glass is a prototype for a contact lens that does the same thing. It might not exist for a while, but that's the best outcome for it.

you could probably work it into a browline glasses style that don't look completely retarded

maybe looking retarded is the point

like bluetooth headsets

Donkey Kong · May 2013

Abdhyius wrote: »

is there a service to have classy ladies wash your car

like, they're wearing classy black dresses and are smoking cigarettes with a holder

Disinterested, one lady holds a running hose limply in one hand, the spray half hitting your front driver's side tire, half hitting the ground while she stares into the distance. The others smoke and talk. After five minutes, one of the ladies realizes you're still there and waves you off.

P10 · May 2013

i don't know if @RonaldoTheGypsy shared this with chat yet but it's good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-G8w02ZX1c
so good

Elendil · May 2013

Evil Multifarious wrote: »

Man I would wear a Google glass monocle

That would be DOPE

you can wear it with your fedora and "steampunk" watch

Corehealer · May 2013

Hamurabi wrote: »

The online application for this chain of donut stores has fully twelve pages of 'do you agree with this statement' questions wtfffffff

Question 132: Does the sight of a sprinkled Boston Creme make you wet? y/n

Deebaser · May 2013

visiblehowl wrote: »

wait what happened on 4/19/13

U 5GOT!

Leitner · May 2013

evilbob wrote: »

Google glass is fucking creepy and I hope everyone who wears one in a place where filming would be inappropriate gets the shit kicked out of them.

They won't.

Google glasses is going be great at cutting volume crime.

visiblehowl · May 2013

matt has a problem wrote: »

visiblehowl wrote: »

matt has a problem wrote: »

visiblehowl wrote: »

matt has a problem wrote: »

$80 is a ripoff to clean a car.

I mean really, legitimately hand wash and clean a car.

And in a bikini too.

I wouldn't do it for less than $250.

Why would I pay you $250 when I could pay a team of high school girls twenty bucks for the same service at basically any random parking lot in the summer?

You're not paying them to wash your car.

Presumably if he wants you to wear a bikini, he's not really paying you to wash his car either.

Which is why only getting $80 is a ripoff either way.

I had a rebuttal to this but I think I am overthinking your joke.

I'm sorry for being "that guy".

skippydumptruck · May 2013

applecare wont give me the info either

satisfaction with company dropping rapidly

Feral · May 2013

visiblehowl wrote: »

Donkey Kong wrote: »

visiblehowl wrote: »

I'll be honest, I think that tumblr is dumb.

Most people look dumb when someone takes a picture of them, and especially when they take pictures of themselves. The google glasses (or wait, it's singular? google glass? whatever) have almost nothing to do with the people looking stupid in those photographs, they're bad pictures regardless.

Frankly I don't think the device itself looks that bad.

It looks like an accessory out of a mad for TV scifi movie. You could play it up for retro fashion like fingerless gloves or something but at the end of the day, it looks stupid. And it implies that you need a screen in front of your face 24/7. It's like walking around with a feedbag on. No matter how enjoyable or convenient, it implies a certain lack of self control.

Really? I dunno, I guess I don't get the last part. Does anybody doubt that this is the future? Or rather, doesn't everybody want the equivalent of google glass but without the stupid looking accessory? Why does wearing it now imply a lack of self control, when presumably everybody is going to want it if/when it becomes contact lenses, i.e. less noticeable?

The whole reason that bluetooth headsets are bad is because the social action of putting down your device or taking out your headset denotes that you're paying attention to what's happening around you.

With Google Glass or a BT headset, there's no way for somebody interacting with you to know if you actually give a shit about what you're saying or if you're actually reading your email or listening to your boss.

If you legitimately have a job that requires you to be standing up and walking around while connected to the Internet, then that's understandable. Maybe you're Agent Coulson.

But most people don't have jobs like that; the BT/Glass wearer is actively choosing to be connected while buying groceries or ordering coffee. There's a dismissiveness to this; it's ostentatiously saying, "my job is way more important than my interactions with the people immediately around me."

Elendil · May 2013

Donkey Kong wrote: »

Abdhyius wrote: »

is there a service to have classy ladies wash your car

like, they're wearing classy black dresses and are smoking cigarettes with a holder

Disinterested, one lady holds a running hose limply in one hand, the spray half hitting your front driver's side tire, half hitting the ground while she stares into the distance. The others smoke and talk. After five minutes, one of the ladies realizes you're still there and waves you off.

hrrrrghn

Abdhyius · May 2013

I want more ennui in my car wash.

Hamurabi · May 2013

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ronya · May 2013

#freesc

Mortious · May 2013

Irond Will wrote: »

Ludious wrote: »

as far as I'm concerned Google Glass is a prototype for a contact lens that does the same thing. It might not exist for a while, but that's the best outcome for it.

you could probably work it into a browline glasses style that don't look completely retarded

maybe looking retarded is the point

like bluetooth headsets

If they have control over the frames, they'll be able to integrate it a lot more naturally.

So It Goes · May 2013

like I meant to make a joke that they should have just said "TOUGH TITS" but it all went horribly wrong

Elendil · May 2013

So It Goes wrote: »

like I meant to make a joke that they should have just said "TOUGH TITS" but it all went horribly wrong

you could say it went tits up

MrMister · May 2013

I've been going to the gym with my friend recently, so in the morning I'll send her an e-mail asking when she wants to go. The title is always a gym-related pun or word substitution of some sort (kind of like a chat title, but with gym instead). Some of them so far:

gymmocent until proven guilty
gym crow
bring out the gymp
in the gym of thrones, you gym or you die
gymstice as fairness
turning and turning in the widening gymre, the falcon cannot gym the falconer

Irond Will · May 2013

So It Goes wrote: »

Irond Will wrote: »

So It Goes wrote: »

Deebaser wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

Irond Will wrote: »

Hamurabi wrote: »

http://jezebel.com/this-is-what-happens-if-you-question-crossfits-tough-493110075

the day i fail to eyeroll at jezebel content

is the day my eye muscles are paralyzed

jezebel handwringing is fucking hilarious will

The comments are fantastits

"Dear god, your obscure puckish humor has made all my fears about social injustice and institutionalized oppression go away," said nobody ever.

Now for grownup talk...

1. Doesn't matter where the term came from. It's essentializing by coding woman-ness (something women should identify as being for them and about them) to tits. It's wrong because it is ableist and reductionist.

2. The letter writing customer does have a huge sense of entitlement...she feels she is entitled to not have reductionist labels invade a place she pays to sweat in. She feels entitled to safety from people who administer the fitness space she has purchased a membership in. She feels entitled to raise an objection to institutionalized misogyny. She is entitled (as a paying customer of a business operating in the US) to all of these things.

3. Just one is pretty meaningless when it comes to justice. She is a person. Her personhood doesn't need a "Mob" stacked modifier in order to count.

4. It's nice you have the privilege of not finding someone reducing you to a sophomoric body part label offensive. For most people, that means they're being dehumanized. Glad you have a greater experience of safety. Most people don't. Your experience does not determine the correctness of hers. That disconnect and dehumanization is part of why this kind of labeling behavior is offensive.

5. A customer acquires a product for a variety of reasons...in most cases, those reasons do not include seeking a corollary series of abusive behaviors and encounters. I do suspect she's wondering why she's there too, now.

6. More offense does not excuse offense. It may camouflage it, but it sure doesn't excuse it.

7. Toughness doesn't mean you abandon ethics. Toughness means you stand by the right thing, you do the right thing, you call out the people who are doing the wrong thing and you stand tall against bullies and thoughtless people. This customer gave the gym a wake-up call. They hit snooze and rolled over. That's not a recipe for success in any business. Hopefully she can just take her business elsewhere.

I can't believe the gym's response to her request to change a class name was just "tough tits, we ain't changing it"

you really can't believe that crossfit dudes acted like macho dicks?

ohhh god my failure to type "wasn't" ruined my joke!!

aha!

i thought maybe you had short-circuited or something!

japan · May 2013

skippydumptruck wrote: »

store wouldnt give me a quote without brining it in

They're going to try to sell you a new imac.

matt has a problem · May 2013

skippydumptruck wrote: »

applecare wont give me the info either

satisfaction with company dropping rapidly

From 2011 but

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3035552?start=0&tstart=0

To follow this up I went into the Apple store and they quoted me £200 to replace it.

I've seen rates from $150 to $600 USD.

For a 2011 Macbook pro my boss' son got quoted "around $400" just recently to replace a 500 gig drive, but that was from an authorized repair place, not an actual Apple store.

Feral · May 2013

But I like the idea of wearing it with a top hat and monocle.

Kagera · May 2013

Hamurabi wrote: »

The online application for this chain of donut stores has fully twelve pages of 'do you agree with this statement' questions wtfffffff

Donuts are delicious

Strongly agree
Agree
Slightly agree
No opinion
Slightly disagree
Disagree
Strongly disagree

I am not a terrorist

Strongly agree
Agree..

Kalkino · May 2013

ronya wrote: »

once nerve interfaces become non-terrible, I can guess quite a lot of people are going to want to dispense with large parts of their fleshy selves

I misread this as "nerve stapling", Chairman Yang

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