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Irond Will

21stCentury wrote: »

I really really really regret not going to any prom...

Still, i don't think i could've managed anyway.

you are a really shy dude, right?

Dread Pirate Arbuthnot

OMG ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PROM PICTURES

Mortious

Deebaser wrote: »

Mortious wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

when you are young every decision you make is suspect

for instance:

for my (first) prom i got my first suit, which was black (mistake 1), wore a black shirt (mistake 2), wore a red tie (mistake 3), and thought i looked so bad ass (mistake 4)

That's what I wore.

I guess the only difference is, I actually looked bad ass.

I can assure you that you did not.

Gooey wrote: »

Mortious wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

when you are young every decision you make is suspect

for instance:

for my (first) prom i got my first suit, which was black (mistake 1), wore a black shirt (mistake 2), wore a red tie (mistake 3), and thought i looked so bad ass (mistake 4)

That's what I wore.

I guess the only difference is, I actually looked bad ass.

*gentle hand on shoulder*

no

no mortious

you

*tears up*

.......you didn't

Oh god, what I have done?

Tav

Winky wrote: »

RiemannLives wrote: »

I could see someone very young kicking ass at programming

it is one of those subjects, like Math but very much unlike History, that does not require maturity to master. In fact I think younger kids who are able to apply themselves to it have a distinct edge in pure coding (which also is very different from the job of being a programmer) over someone in their 20s or older.

I got started around 11ish years old. Actually made a weird little D&D (2nd ed rules) game when I was 12. All the art MS Paint on a windows 3.1 machine (a 286 16 MHz box with 2 megs of ram and a 40 meg hard drive) could handle.

Programming is something that I honestly am pissed is not taught to children almost immediately. The basic concepts are so simple and intuitive and so easily built off of that young children should be capable of grasping them much more easily than a lot of our even most rudimentary subjects. It's also a skill that has basically boundless applications. There are very, very few people in the world who wouldn't benefit from learning some programming logic.

Imagine the way it would affect the way products are made and society is run if we could make the same basic assumptions about literacy in programming as we can about literacy in English about the general populace? Programming ought to be a fundamental skill.

Hopefully the availability of super cheap boards like the rasp pi makes this a reality in the not too distant future.

Shivahn

override367 wrote: »

like if I dressed based on how I wanted to feel absent others

I'd be at work in at most a pair of shorts letting my girth spill out and fill the workspace

Same goes for class

I honestly feel a hundred times better when I'm out in clothes I picked compared to work clothes. Wearing slobbish stuff would reduce that for me.

matt has a problem

Mim wrote: »

you guys, I want these leggings:



like so bad, you have no idea.

Hey, I can almost see Uranus.

Organichu

Tav wrote: »

our school had one computer class

I finished the semester's worth of work (basically learning to type) in two classes and spent the rest of the class dicking around on the internet

we had a small computer room in high school but there were literally no computer classes, not even a typing course. it was just for the kids who didn't have a home computer to do research and type assignments and stuff.

i get mad fucking jelly when i hear about programming and web design and electronics courses in high schools.

Elendil

going to prom was not even a consideration for me

it clearly wasn't going to happen

Abdhyius

Dread Pirate Arbuthnot wrote: »

OMG ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PROM PICTURES

I've got nothing to say against the clothes

but I do want to jump choco and hack his hair off kevin costner style

Dread Pirate Arbuthnot

leggings

are

not

pants

Ravenhpltc24

My Mexican co-producer just made the comment "why do I look like monkey in all these pictures" and I am trying so hard not to reply with racism.

Mim

I don't have prom pictures, but it's safe to say I looked hot.

well, except the first prom I went to. I felt like my face resembled Camilla Parker-Bowles just a little too much for my comfort.

Tav

Mim wrote: »

you guys, I want these leggings:

[IMG ]http://i.imgur.com/knYEO ug.jpg[/IMG]

like so bad, you have no idea.

they look fucking awful irl

P10

i took ap computer science and spent the whole class playing warcraft3 custom maps w/ my bros

#privilegeownz

Elendil

Dread Pirate Arbuthnot wrote: »

leggings

are

not

pants

disagree

Irond Will

Gooey wrote: »

Irond Will wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

Irond Will wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

spool32 wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

when i was young i was super defiant about the dress code. all "my clothes are an avenue for expression, you fascists!"

now i could not care less

Tell me about the half-windsor.

windsor and half windsor are ridiculous knots

pratt is where it's at

pratt is just a backwards windsor

and the small end ends up backwards

2/10

would not tie again

what

if anything it is a backwards half windsor

pratt:



windsor:

half windsor:



the full windsor has an extra loop in it vs pratt/half windsor

that diagram is the tie knot i use but is not generally regarded as a half-windsor.

this is the standard half-windsor:

Shivahn

override367 wrote: »

Shivahn wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

Shivahn wrote: »

Pretty sure most people wear sexy clothes to feel sexy themselves and it has less to do with how others perceive them than everyone seems to think.

That's still a chicken-and-egg thing, though. For the vast majority of people what they define as sexy has been defined for them by the way others around them perceive them, sadly.

Well, it's molded by that obviously. I meant that at the point where a girl is picking out clothes in the morning, it's usually more "i love how I look in this" than "boys will love this."

I can't speak with authority but I'm pretty sure there are at least some girls who dress thinking "boys will love this", "girls will love this" or "I will gain the attention of the dark lord cthulu by wearing this"

Oh for sure! But I think they are rarer than most people imagine.

Mim

Oh my god, those leggings are 48 bucks.

WHAT.

Dread Pirate Arbuthnot

he beat you to it abdhy

override367

Shivahn wrote: »

override367 wrote: »

like if I dressed based on how I wanted to feel absent others

I'd be at work in at most a pair of shorts letting my girth spill out and fill the workspace

Same goes for class

I honestly feel a hundred times better when I'm out in clothes I picked compared to work clothes. Wearing slobbish stuff would reduce that for me.

I dress almost exclusively in a manner designed to not make me look like a loser when I am going out in public

it is an all consuming thought

never, ever in things I would actually like to wear

Tav

Dread Pirate Arbuthnot wrote: »

leggings

are

not

pants

they're better

Irond Will

prom was fine

i don't know why so many people wring their hands so much about it

i went with my girlfriend and then i got laid afterwards

nothing wrong with prom

Abdhyius

I think I will look to other people in a way that pleases me in these clothes.

Elendil

override367 wrote: »

Shivahn wrote: »

override367 wrote: »

like if I dressed based on how I wanted to feel absent others

I'd be at work in at most a pair of shorts letting my girth spill out and fill the workspace

Same goes for class

I honestly feel a hundred times better when I'm out in clothes I picked compared to work clothes. Wearing slobbish stuff would reduce that for me.

I dress almost exclusively in a manner designed to not make me look like a loser when I am going out in public

it is an all consuming thought

never, ever in things I would actually like to wear

sometimes i wear jean shorts

Mim

Dread Pirate Arbuthnot wrote: »

leggings

are

not

pants

they're not, but I wear them as such

because I can

RiemannLives

Tav wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

RiemannLives wrote: »

I could see someone very young kicking ass at programming

it is one of those subjects, like Math but very much unlike History, that does not require maturity to master. In fact I think younger kids who are able to apply themselves to it have a distinct edge in pure coding (which also is very different from the job of being a programmer) over someone in their 20s or older.

I got started around 11ish years old. Actually made a weird little D&D (2nd ed rules) game when I was 12. All the art MS Paint on a windows 3.1 machine (a 286 16 MHz box with 2 megs of ram and a 40 meg hard drive) could handle.

Programming is something that I honestly am pissed is not taught to children almost immediately. The basic concepts are so simple and intuitive and so easily built off of that young children should be capable of grasping them much more easily than a lot of our even most rudimentary subjects. It's also a skill that has basically boundless applications. There are very, very few people in the world who wouldn't benefit from learning some programming logic.

Imagine the way it would affect the way products are made and society is run if we could make the same basic assumptions about literacy in programming as we can about literacy in English about the general populace? Programming ought to be a fundamental skill.

Hopefully the availability of super cheap boards like the rasp pi makes this a reality in the not too distant future.

not sure why that would be the case.

Far better tools for a beginner have been available for free download on a normal desktop for years now. Anyone with a computer in their home can get doing with no cost and no need for a board.

Pi is cool for people looking to tinker with robotics and such but not directly applicable to general programming.

wandering

Gooey wrote: »

Mortious wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

when you are young every decision you make is suspect

for instance:

for my (first) prom i got my first suit, which was black (mistake 1), wore a black shirt (mistake 2), wore a red tie (mistake 3), and thought i looked so bad ass (mistake 4)

That's what I wore.

I guess the only difference is, I actually looked bad ass.

*gentle hand on shoulder*

no

no mortious

you

*tears up*

.......you didn't

That's it Gooey, you're out of the [Chat] Navy.

Mortious

Shivahn wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

Shivahn wrote: »

Pretty sure most people wear sexy clothes to feel sexy themselves and it has less to do with how others perceive them than everyone seems to think.

That's still a chicken-and-egg thing, though. For the vast majority of people what they define as sexy has been defined for them by the way others around them perceive them, sadly.

Well, it's molded by that obviously. I meant that at the point where a girl is picking out clothes in the morning, it's usually more "i love how I look in this" than "boys will love this."

Yup.

As Winky said, our views of ourselves are moulded to how other perceive us, but it's not completely dictated. I'd suspect this ratio changes with age (and confidence)?

My clothes now reflect more on what I like that what I think other people would like, but tempered by the social expectations of what is appropriate.

Also, after PAXAus is over and my hair grows long again, I need to rock a greaser outfit.

Winky

Sarksus wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

Sarksus wrote: »

maybe I will 'get in your outfit'

the game isn't very good solo

No, the game is awful solo.

In a good outfit it is like the best game ever, though.

We are on Helios.

When I tried it last month I was bitching about it a lot.

The shooting doesn't even get fun until you can unlock a scope! The iron sights are negative fun. I couldn't see shit and I was dying. As soon as I got the 4x with the chevrons it was duck season.

The thing is that as a solo player whether you are in a good position or you are getting farmed for an hour at a shitty spawn is 100% at the whim of the zerg. When you're playing with an outfit it's 100% at the whim of your platoon leader. The game is made in such a way that unfair fights are basically ordained unless you actively create fights you can win.

And I just happen to be a totally rad platoon leader.

Gooey

Mim wrote: »

Oh my god, those leggings are 48 bucks.

WHAT.

is that a lot for leggings?

Chanus

Did someone say prom pics?

This was actually homecoming, but close enough.

RiemannLives

Organichu wrote: »

Tav wrote: »

our school had one computer class

I finished the semester's worth of work (basically learning to type) in two classes and spent the rest of the class dicking around on the internet

we had a small computer room in high school but there were literally no computer classes, not even a typing course. it was just for the kids who didn't have a home computer to do research and type assignments and stuff.

i get mad fucking jelly when i hear about programming and web design and electronics courses in high schools.

in 10th grade I had a semester where there were literally no classes left with seats open for about 1/3 of my school day.

So they made me a teachers assistant. I was supposed to sit in the library and type out this teachers handwritten notes.

I got suspended for instead using the time to write a text adventure game in the QBASIC environment that came with DOS5 and later.

override367

now I'm really self conscious because I wear office shirt + khakis to school since I go directly to the office afterwards and have been told I dress like a nerd by a cute girl yesterday

but then again what does she know she doesn't have a job and her dad is paying for her education so fuck her

the cycle continues

Tav

RiemannLives wrote: »

Tav wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

RiemannLives wrote: »

I could see someone very young kicking ass at programming

it is one of those subjects, like Math but very much unlike History, that does not require maturity to master. In fact I think younger kids who are able to apply themselves to it have a distinct edge in pure coding (which also is very different from the job of being a programmer) over someone in their 20s or older.

I got started around 11ish years old. Actually made a weird little D&D (2nd ed rules) game when I was 12. All the art MS Paint on a windows 3.1 machine (a 286 16 MHz box with 2 megs of ram and a 40 meg hard drive) could handle.

Programming is something that I honestly am pissed is not taught to children almost immediately. The basic concepts are so simple and intuitive and so easily built off of that young children should be capable of grasping them much more easily than a lot of our even most rudimentary subjects. It's also a skill that has basically boundless applications. There are very, very few people in the world who wouldn't benefit from learning some programming logic.

Imagine the way it would affect the way products are made and society is run if we could make the same basic assumptions about literacy in programming as we can about literacy in English about the general populace? Programming ought to be a fundamental skill.

Hopefully the availability of super cheap boards like the rasp pi makes this a reality in the not too distant future.

not sure why that would be the case.

Far better tools for a beginner have been available for free download on a normal desktop for years now. Anyone with a computer in their home can get doing with no cost and no need for a board.

Pi is cool for people looking to tinker with robotics and such but not directly applicable to general programming.

There'd a much better chance of it being taught in schools though, which would expose it to a much wider audience and give people a better idea of what to expect from a comp sci course before they sign up for college.

Abdhyius

Winky wrote: »

Sarksus wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

Sarksus wrote: »

maybe I will 'get in your outfit'

the game isn't very good solo

No, the game is awful solo.

In a good outfit it is like the best game ever, though.

We are on Helios.

When I tried it last month I was bitching about it a lot.

The shooting doesn't even get fun until you can unlock a scope! The iron sights are negative fun. I couldn't see shit and I was dying. As soon as I got the 4x with the chevrons it was duck season.

The thing is that as a solo player whether you are in a good position or you are getting farmed for an hour at a shitty spawn is 100% at the whim of the zerg. When you're playing with an outfit it's 100% at the whim of your platoon leader. The game is made in such a way that unfair fights are basically ordained unless you actively create fights you can win.

And I just happen to be a totally rad platoon leader.

people should stop spawning at a location that is getting overrun

it is pointless!

if a decent bunch of them spawn somewhere else and hit the attackers in their butts they can get something done.


but always join a platoon. My outfit is just the outfit of my friends and acquaintances but we join the platoons of outfits we know are good.

Irond Will

spool32 wrote: »

Speaking of programming languages, the main education bill before the Texas legislature creates a STEM-oriented highschool diploma track that lets you take a programming language for your "language requirement".

I think that is an excellent idea.

really subverts the purpose of the language requirement

and if there's anything that engineers need, it's not getting waivers from having to learn stuff about the world at large

Dread Pirate Arbuthnot

CHANUS RUN THEIR FACES ARE BEING CONSUMED BY ELDRITCH POWERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Mortious

Sarksus wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

Sarksus wrote: »

maybe I will 'get in your outfit'

the game isn't very good solo

No, the game is awful solo.

In a good outfit it is like the best game ever, though.

We are on Helios.

When I tried it last month I was bitching about it a lot.

The shooting doesn't even get fun until you can unlock a scope! The iron sights are negative fun. I couldn't see shit and I was dying. As soon as I got the 4x with the chevrons it was duck season.

What faction are you playing?

The NC iron sites are boss.

Irond Will

Mim wrote: »

you guys, I want these leggings:



like so bad, you have no idea.

you could just borrow a pair from @Podly

Chanus

Dread Pirate Arbuthnot wrote: »

CHANUS RUN THEIR FACES ARE BEING CONSUMED BY ELDRITCH POWERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

OH MY GOD WERE ALL GONNA DIE