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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    Gatsby wrote: »
    T4CT wrote: »
    fun fact re: all these yoshi avatars

    in grade 7 i wrote a 200 page fanfiction by hand in a notebook about my fan made yoshi and his friends and adventures. he was a samurai and also blue.

    Yoshimitsblu?

    oh fuck right off
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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Chareth Cutestory Lawyer of the SeaRegistered User regular
    But

    Sony has already said the PS4 is not always-on
    “Did we consider it? No, we didn’t consider it," Yoshida told Game Informer.

    The reason? Many of the same factors that were brought against former Microsoft executive Adam Orth when he told critics of "always-online" to just "deal with it."

    "The main reason being that many countries don’t have robust Internet connections," Yoshida said. "It makes sense for people to have Internet connections to play online games, but for offline games there are many countries that we saw do not really have robust Internet.”
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  • YaYaYaYa ... ...wanna fight?Registered User regular
    T4CT wrote: »
    fun fact re: all these yoshi avatars

    in grade 7 i wrote a 200 page fanfiction by hand in a notebook about my fan made yoshi and his friends and adventures. he was a samurai and also blue.

    so the truth comes out, Mike Blais

    or should I say

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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    But

    Sony has already said the PS4 is not always-on
    “Did we consider it? No, we didn’t consider it," Yoshida told Game Informer.

    The reason? Many of the same factors that were brought against former Microsoft executive Adam Orth when he told critics of "always-online" to just "deal with it."

    "The main reason being that many countries don’t have robust Internet connections," Yoshida said. "It makes sense for people to have Internet connections to play online games, but for offline games there are many countries that we saw do not really have robust Internet.”

    PS4 != games on PS4
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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    i don't want it to be a reality but in some capacity i really think it is now
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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    Like think about what the online pass actually did

    It didn't lock you out of entire games, it just locked you out of certain parts or content

    100% something that could be just straight transferred to "if you don't have an active internet connection you don't get to do this"
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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Chareth Cutestory Lawyer of the SeaRegistered User regular
    Nah

    I really, really doubt it

    If it is, bummer for people that buy EA games, I guess

    Unless they do a Mirror's Edge 2 I shouldn't be affected
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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    Unless they do a Mirror's Edge 2 I shouldn't be affected

    i don't remember mentioning Google Glass or Google Glass' platform exclusive
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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Chareth Cutestory Lawyer of the SeaRegistered User regular
    T4CT wrote: »
    Like think about what the online pass actually did

    It didn't lock you out of entire games, it just locked you out of certain parts or content

    100% something that could be just straight transferred to "if you don't have an active internet connection you don't get to do this"

    What are they realistically going to lock you out of?

    Multiplayer?

    Something that requires online anyways?
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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    T4CT wrote: »
    fun fact re: all these yoshi avatars

    in grade 7 i wrote a 200 page fanfiction by hand in a notebook about my fan made yoshi and his friends and adventures. he was a samurai and also blue.

    When I was in 7th grade I doodled new arm cannon modes for Samus in my notebook and wrote little blurbs about what they did.

    If I remember correctly, the ice beam turned into a super-cold shotgun, the wave cannon turned into an electric sword, the plasma beam became a lava whip and the power beam morphed into a giant laser (like the Vector Cannon in ZOE 2).
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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Chareth Cutestory Lawyer of the SeaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2013
    I mean they mentioned on a recent Bombcast that EA specifically went out of their way to mention that always-online is not going to be required for The Sims 4

    And that's a game on PC! Where basically everyone has an Internet connection!

    I think EA realized just how badly they fucked up with SimCity

    But keep talking about that sky falling, I guess
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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    T4CT wrote: »
    Like think about what the online pass actually did

    It didn't lock you out of entire games, it just locked you out of certain parts or content

    100% something that could be just straight transferred to "if you don't have an active internet connection you don't get to do this"

    What are they realistically going to lock you out of?

    Multiplayer?

    Something that requires online anyways?

    not all multiplayer requires online?

    there have been plenty of cases where not having the online pass (or equivalent from different publishers) has locked you out of single player content

    off the top of my head arkham city, RAGE, and Kingdoms of Amalur are all recent games that have done this

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom It's a brand new day and the sun is high All the birds are singing that you're gonna dieRegistered User regular
    If always-online ever becomes a thing on every console in any generation, I'll completely skip that generation and other console generations that continue it.
  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    I mean they mentioned on a recent Bombcast that EA specifically went out of their way to mention that always-online is not going to be required for The Sims 4

    And that's a game on PC! Where basically everyone has an Internet connection!

    I think EA realized just how badly they fucked up with SimCity

    But keep talking about that sky falling, I guess

    i think this is different from sky falling stuff

    there is 100% precedent for single player content not existing without an online pass?

    i want this to be a face value thing too

    but I don't think it will be, there is going to be something to replace this
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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    T4CT wrote: »
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    I mean they mentioned on a recent Bombcast that EA specifically went out of their way to mention that always-online is not going to be required for The Sims 4

    And that's a game on PC! Where basically everyone has an Internet connection!

    I think EA realized just how badly they fucked up with SimCity

    But keep talking about that sky falling, I guess

    i think this is different from sky falling stuff

    there is 100% precedent for single player content not existing without an online pass?

    i want this to be a face value thing too

    but I don't think it will be, there is going to be something to replace this

    What does this sentence mean?
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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Chareth Cutestory Lawyer of the SeaRegistered User regular
    Just assuming the worst, my friend

    The signs all point to this always-online thing just being a stupid rumor that hopefully dies next week with MS's conference

    Sony's not backing it

    EA was badly, badly burned by it

    EA has also said that their next-gen development costs will hold steady
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  • HyperAquaBlastHyperAquaBlast Registered User regular
    Sweeney Tom wrote: »
    If always-online ever becomes a thing on every console in any generation, I'll completely skip that generation and other console generations that continue it.

    You might as well quit now. Just rip that band-aid right off.
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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    captaink wrote: »
    T4CT wrote: »
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    I mean they mentioned on a recent Bombcast that EA specifically went out of their way to mention that always-online is not going to be required for The Sims 4

    And that's a game on PC! Where basically everyone has an Internet connection!

    I think EA realized just how badly they fucked up with SimCity

    But keep talking about that sky falling, I guess

    i think this is different from sky falling stuff

    there is 100% precedent for single player content not existing without an online pass?

    i want this to be a face value thing too

    but I don't think it will be, there is going to be something to replace this

    What does this sentence mean?

    that there is 100% precedent for single player content being locked away from people unless they bought their game unopened, new from retail

    i could've been worded better but for those people that content doesn't exist unless they have the code to prove they bought the game
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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Chareth Cutestory Lawyer of the SeaRegistered User regular
    HyperAquaBlast wrote: »
    Sweeney Tom wrote: »
    If always-online ever becomes a thing on every console in any generation, I'll completely skip that generation and other console generations that continue it.

    You might as well quit now. Just rip that band-aid right off.

    Or buy a PS4 or Wii U
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  • HyperAquaBlastHyperAquaBlast Registered User regular
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    HyperAquaBlast wrote: »
    Sweeney Tom wrote: »
    If always-online ever becomes a thing on every console in any generation, I'll completely skip that generation and other console generations that continue it.

    You might as well quit now. Just rip that band-aid right off.

    Or buy a PS4 or Wii U

    Or rip it off taking some hair along with it.
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  • HullisHullis I'm no more a spy than you are- A doctor.Registered User regular
    captaink wrote: »
    T4CT wrote: »
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    I mean they mentioned on a recent Bombcast that EA specifically went out of their way to mention that always-online is not going to be required for The Sims 4

    And that's a game on PC! Where basically everyone has an Internet connection!

    I think EA realized just how badly they fucked up with SimCity

    But keep talking about that sky falling, I guess

    i think this is different from sky falling stuff

    there is 100% precedent for single player content not existing without an online pass?

    i want this to be a face value thing too

    but I don't think it will be, there is going to be something to replace this

    What does this sentence mean?

    remember that arkham city stuff with catwoman
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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Registered User regular
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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    EA has also said that their next-gen development costs will hold steady

    they actually said that for FY 2014 their operating costs would remain flat

    this will 100% change post-2014 I am literally to bet actual dollars on it

    they literally talked about this on this particular bombcast!
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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    T4CT wrote: »
    captaink wrote: »
    T4CT wrote: »
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    I mean they mentioned on a recent Bombcast that EA specifically went out of their way to mention that always-online is not going to be required for The Sims 4

    And that's a game on PC! Where basically everyone has an Internet connection!

    I think EA realized just how badly they fucked up with SimCity

    But keep talking about that sky falling, I guess

    i think this is different from sky falling stuff

    there is 100% precedent for single player content not existing without an online pass?

    i want this to be a face value thing too

    but I don't think it will be, there is going to be something to replace this

    What does this sentence mean?

    that there is 100% precedent for single player content being locked away from people unless they bought their game unopened, new from retail

    i could've been worded better but for those people that content doesn't exist unless they have the code to prove they bought the game

    Online pass is specifically "Buy a game new, get multiplayer for free", or pay $10 if you buy used. Single player stuff is a different thing.
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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Chareth Cutestory Lawyer of the SeaRegistered User regular
    Hullis wrote: »
    captaink wrote: »
    T4CT wrote: »
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    I mean they mentioned on a recent Bombcast that EA specifically went out of their way to mention that always-online is not going to be required for The Sims 4

    And that's a game on PC! Where basically everyone has an Internet connection!

    I think EA realized just how badly they fucked up with SimCity

    But keep talking about that sky falling, I guess

    i think this is different from sky falling stuff

    there is 100% precedent for single player content not existing without an online pass?

    i want this to be a face value thing too

    but I don't think it will be, there is going to be something to replace this

    What does this sentence mean?

    remember that arkham city stuff with catwoman

    I sure do

    And note that Injustice, WB's next major game after Arkham City, didn't even have an online pass in a fighting game

    The online pass was an experiment. It's not even really an experiment I had much of a problem with, personally. But it seems to have, for all intents and purposes, failed. When's the last time you saw a game do that?

    And I'm talking about real content, not piddly shit like "go collect some dog tags from the Normandy crash" that is just a waste of time to even create, let alone charge for it
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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    Just assuming the worst, my friend

    yup you're 100% correct but watch

    by 2015 we will have games that require an online connection to access single player content in the game

    hopefully people respond and by 2017 this will also disappear but that's dependant on a bunch of other factors

    i am not saying this will happen right away. But long term? absolutely!
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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom It's a brand new day and the sun is high All the birds are singing that you're gonna dieRegistered User regular
    edited May 2013
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    HyperAquaBlast wrote: »
    Sweeney Tom wrote: »
    If always-online ever becomes a thing on every console in any generation, I'll completely skip that generation and other console generations that continue it.

    You might as well quit now. Just rip that band-aid right off.

    Or buy a PS4 or Wii U

    This is what I plan to do at some point. Wii U's looking more likely, because as cool as the streaming thing sounds, the Wii U has more upcoming exclusives that excite me (Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem, Bayonetta 2, Wind Waker HD, Pikmin 3, are the four that come to mind immediately)
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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    captaink wrote: »
    T4CT wrote: »
    captaink wrote: »
    T4CT wrote: »
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    I mean they mentioned on a recent Bombcast that EA specifically went out of their way to mention that always-online is not going to be required for The Sims 4

    And that's a game on PC! Where basically everyone has an Internet connection!

    I think EA realized just how badly they fucked up with SimCity

    But keep talking about that sky falling, I guess

    i think this is different from sky falling stuff

    there is 100% precedent for single player content not existing without an online pass?

    i want this to be a face value thing too

    but I don't think it will be, there is going to be something to replace this

    What does this sentence mean?

    that there is 100% precedent for single player content being locked away from people unless they bought their game unopened, new from retail

    i could've been worded better but for those people that content doesn't exist unless they have the code to prove they bought the game

    Online pass is specifically "Buy a game new, get multiplayer for free", or pay $10 if you buy used. Single player stuff is a different thing.

    Uh no it's not? Kingdoms of Amalur literally had EA's "Online Pass" and locked you out of 7(?) Single player missions

    it is not a different thing

    it is exactly this thing
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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    to be fair I have 0 problems with an online pass and don't think they should get rid of it
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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    Olivaw wrote: »
    There's already single-player content that requires an internet connection

    It's called "DLC"

    Sometimes it's even on the disc!

    exactly! so look for this to become a way more prominent thing where the switch for unlocking the on-disc content is "am i connected to the internet"
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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    Michael "Pachter" Blais
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  • HyperAquaBlastHyperAquaBlast Registered User regular
    With the way media and video games are moving, I can't see physical video games at a store existing much longer which means that'll in order to get them you'll have to be online. Maybe this next gen will be the final stand for it but no way will the gen after that will they exist.

    Maybe they'll have offline mode like Steam has but if you want to keep playing games in the future then you'll need some kind of connection in order to get them.
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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Chareth Cutestory Lawyer of the SeaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Nah

    People are always gonna want physical media for some things

    I will never, ever buy a digital film

    And if I'm paying past a certain price threshold for a game, that shit's gonna be physical
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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    HyperAquaBlast wrote: »
    Maybe they'll have offline mode like Steam has but if you want to keep playing games in the future then you'll need some kind of connection in order to get them.

    absolutely this is going to happen

    app stores are a good example of this already being a thing and it just has to move to the bigger side of things
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  • T4CTT4CT i'm pretty specific hi i am mikeRegistered User regular
    UnbreakableVow wrote: »
    Nah

    People are always gonna want physical media for some things

    I will never, ever buy a digital film

    And if I'm paying past a certain price threshold for a game, that shit's gonna be physical

    i super agree but for the 100% superficial reason that I like stacking games on shelves......
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  • AntimatterAntimatter I remember touch I need something moreRegistered User regular
    give me hotline miami on mini cd
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  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    HyperAquaBlast wrote: »
    With the way media and video games are moving, I can't see physical video games at a store existing much longer which means that'll in order to get them you'll have to be online. Maybe this next gen will be the final stand for it but no way will the gen after that will they exist.

    Maybe they'll have offline mode like Steam has but if you want to keep playing games in the future then you'll need some kind of connection in order to get them.

    It gets mentioned every time someone brings this up, but that's pretty silly. Remember, just because you're set up to operate that way doesn't mean everyone else is. A huge segment of the market will continue buying games on physical media for a long time to come, and that includes many people who are capable of going the digital route but just don't for whatever reason. The first console to completely eliminate physical media will either crash and burn, be a niche device, or not exist until at least a few decades from now.
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