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Ravenhpltc24

So It Goes wrote: »

Cinders wrote: »

So It Goes wrote: »

charging women with adultery when the man is married and the woman isn't

aaaaaaaaaah

Wah?

watching a documentary about rape in the military

Are you watching Invisible War?? I was very intrigued by that but I think it would make me lose my last ounce of faith in humanity.

BeNarwhal

Cut off my brother's head because he's the only person in this picture who would care if their likeness was spread across the interwebs

But I had to share this pic

Not so much for me, kneeling in the background

But because of interaction between babby and grandpa

ronya

RiemannLives wrote: »

ronya wrote: »

RiemannLives wrote: »

ronya wrote: »

RiemannLives wrote: »

ronya wrote: »

maybe if they had chosen a less terrible framework than XNA

hey now, XNA is super rad. For 2D games anyway.

And on modern video cards 2D is actually harder than you'd think. A lot of frameworks, such as Unity, fuck it up and make it run worse than 3d even.

Video cards don't like huge textures and like being able to optimize swaps to texture memory. You need a very nontrivial batching system to make 2d work efficiently on them.

this explains why 2d games have become so terrible since the 1990s...

part of it actually yeah. Back until around 1994 when you did 2d you were bliting directly to video RAM. Then there was a dark age when you were still kind of doing that but through expensive as fuck annoying libraries to handle SVGA. And then came the even worse era of early 3d.

When you try to make a 3d card draw a sprite you are actually creating 2 triangles in geometry and assigning your image as a texture mapping across them.

If you fill up your vertex buffer as your code needs to draw sprites in a scene, there is going to be a lot of duplicated textures. Need to batch those up so you get the z order you want (tricky) but also minimize the number of texture swaps to the card.

There is code for doing that in C++ here and it's not super hard but by no means trivial. That is built in to XNA and is the bestest thing about it.

are programs not allowed to write directly to video nowadays, or what?

not really no. Or at least the idea of having a single buffer in memory that represents the screen no longer exists.

You do write to video memory but what you are writing is data about vertices and such which the card then picks up and starts doing crazy maths with.

so if I wanted highly detailed 2d sprites, I would have to dump the whole damn thing into a texture all at once and then move it around? ew

Ravenhpltc24

Winky wrote: »

Ravenhpltc24 wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

I am convinced that if I lost ~30 lbs I would be an intensely pretty person.

Convinced.

ME TOO! HIGH-FIVE!

Raven.

You and me.

We will get beautiful together.

I've lost ~30 since my fattest point last year but yeah, I could probably stand to lose another 20 or so.

My co-producer who just got back from doing the LA program noticed when I saw her today. I love it when people I haven't seen in a few months go omg you lost so much weight! Glad it's actually outwardly noticeable and not all in my head.

Organichu

i have kind of a soft face until i get quite lean. but once i get super slim i look pretty i think.

but it's so far away. *articulating bulimia assister*

So It Goes

haha the military response is a poster with guys on it saying " don't risk it, wait until she's sober"

Ravenhpltc24

BeNarwhal wrote: »

Cut off my brother's head because he's the only person in this picture who would care if they're likeness was spread across the interwebs

But I had to share this pic

Not so much for me, kneeling in the background

But because of interaction between babby and grandpa

That is a seriously cute baby your bro has got there. Like, top tenth percentile of cuteness. You can tell him I said that.

Cinders

So It Goes wrote: »

haha the military response is a poster with guys on it saying " don't risk it, wait until she's sober"

hello alcohol my old friend.

BeNarwhal

Ravenhpltc24 wrote: »

BeNarwhal wrote: »

Cut off my brother's head because he's the only person in this picture who would care if they're likeness was spread across the interwebs

But I had to share this pic

Not so much for me, kneeling in the background

But because of interaction between babby and grandpa

That is a seriously cute baby your bro has got there. Like, top tenth percentile of cuteness. You can tell him I said that.

He will simultaneously be so confused and so pleased!

But yes, for whatever reason apparently my family creates damn cute babies.

... And it's all downhill from there.

Elendil

Thomamelas wrote: »

Deebaser wrote: »

spool32 wrote: »

Deebaser wrote: »

I played ME3 with G&T people.

Never again

I played ME3 with [chat] people mostly.

Preacher made a tasteless sarcastic political joke at my expense as like the first thing he ever said to me. Other people in the round told him to can it.

I remember there being a lot of yelling and people talking over each other and getting mad when things weren't going smoothly, but not a lot of friendliness when things were going well.

It was unpleasant. I played a fair amount with Elendil too. By which I mean I basically spectated while he went on his murder sprees. I wasn't even a sidekick, yo. I was a an escort mission NPC

Elendil is a beast. Also the yelling at Nerd for taking 20 minutes to change his paint each match.

I played a few games with @Quid a few weeks ago

several months of pubbing gold has forged me into something more than a man

RiemannLives

ronya wrote: »

RiemannLives wrote: »

ronya wrote: »

RiemannLives wrote: »

ronya wrote: »

RiemannLives wrote: »

ronya wrote: »

maybe if they had chosen a less terrible framework than XNA

hey now, XNA is super rad. For 2D games anyway.

And on modern video cards 2D is actually harder than you'd think. A lot of frameworks, such as Unity, fuck it up and make it run worse than 3d even.

Video cards don't like huge textures and like being able to optimize swaps to texture memory. You need a very nontrivial batching system to make 2d work efficiently on them.

this explains why 2d games have become so terrible since the 1990s...

part of it actually yeah. Back until around 1994 when you did 2d you were bliting directly to video RAM. Then there was a dark age when you were still kind of doing that but through expensive as fuck annoying libraries to handle SVGA. And then came the even worse era of early 3d.

When you try to make a 3d card draw a sprite you are actually creating 2 triangles in geometry and assigning your image as a texture mapping across them.

If you fill up your vertex buffer as your code needs to draw sprites in a scene, there is going to be a lot of duplicated textures. Need to batch those up so you get the z order you want (tricky) but also minimize the number of texture swaps to the card.

There is code for doing that in C++ here and it's not super hard but by no means trivial. That is built in to XNA and is the bestest thing about it.

are programs not allowed to write directly to video nowadays, or what?

not really no. Or at least the idea of having a single buffer in memory that represents the screen no longer exists.

You do write to video memory but what you are writing is data about vertices and such which the card then picks up and starts doing crazy maths with.

so if I wanted highly detailed 2d sprites, I would have to dump the whole damn thing into a texture all at once and then move it around? ew

Depends on how highly detailed. Usually what you do is have a really big texture which is a classical "sprite sheet" and then optimize your draws (or let the SpriteBatch do that) so that you draw everything from one big sprite sheet then swap it out then draw everything from the next etc...

Though since they are actually textures your sprite sheets are constrained. Need to have dimensions in powers of 2 etc...

So It Goes

Ravenhpltc24 wrote: »

So It Goes wrote: »

Cinders wrote: »

So It Goes wrote: »

charging women with adultery when the man is married and the woman isn't

aaaaaaaaaah

Wah?

watching a documentary about rape in the military

Are you watching Invisible War?? I was very intrigued by that but I think it would make me lose my last ounce of faith in humanity.

no, just the military

the main lady supposed to prevent sexual assault for the military can't even fathom the frequency of serial rapists goddd

Ravenhpltc24

So It Goes wrote: »

Ravenhpltc24 wrote: »

So It Goes wrote: »

Cinders wrote: »

So It Goes wrote: »

charging women with adultery when the man is married and the woman isn't

aaaaaaaaaah

Wah?

watching a documentary about rape in the military

Are you watching Invisible War?? I was very intrigued by that but I think it would make me lose my last ounce of faith in humanity.

no, just the military

the main lady supposed to prevent sexual assault for the military can't even fathom the frequency of serial rapists goddd

Everybody gets one freebee. Then they realize they probably raped someone and feel bad about it and never do it again.

BeNarwhal

Oh god I typed they're instead of their initially and now Raven's quoted it

Foible immortalized forever!

BeNarwhal

Actually in my case it's not so much downhill

As it is a constant lateral move where you look like a baby forever >_>

Ravenhpltc24

BeNarwhal wrote: »

Actually in my case it's not so much downhill

As it is a constant lateral move where you look like a baby forever >_>

Dose cheeks.

Inquisitor

Yay, the boardgame I funded hit its second to last stretch goal.

But the really awesome last stretch goal is 40k pounds off.

Game is at 80k pounds with 10 days to go, somehow I don't see it hitting that last stretch goal (twelve extra cards that expand the game). Which is a shame as it sounds like the best one.

Kickstarting stuff is weird!

Deebaser

bloodyroarxx wrote: »

goddamn

Angelina Jolie had a preventive double mastectomy because she had a high risk for breast cancer

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/14/opinion/my-medical-choice.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

Not being a doctor, that seems completely insane. I hear I am high risk for testicular cancer and I think "OK, we'll I'm going to be on top of this and get regular check ups and not fuck around if anything seems off". I don't have them removed in a preemptive strike against cnsur.

But yeah, I'm not a doctor.

So It Goes

Deebaser wrote: »

bloodyroarxx wrote: »

goddamn

Angelina Jolie had a preventive double mastectomy because she had a high risk for breast cancer

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/14/opinion/my-medical-choice.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

Not being a doctor, that seems completely insane. I hear I am high risk for testicular cancer and I think "OK, we'll I'm going to be on top of this and get regular check ups and not fuck around if anything seems off". I don't have them removed in a preemptive strike against cnsur.

But yeah, I'm not a doctor.

maybe she was tired of carrying them around

BeNarwhal

But babby does have his uncle's blonde hair and blue eyes (so far)

I did nothing I swear

My brother has even commented on several occasions that it's a little off-putting raising a miniature version of his brother as his own child

RiemannLives

ronya there is an upside of having to deal with all this malarkey just to draw a 2d sprite to the screen (and this is true of openGL as it is of DirectX, its not specific to any one company or technology stack) and that is it lets you apply hardware shaders onto the 2d output. Which is a much better way to handle stuff like fogging, lighting, glow etc... than the old ways.

edit: also doing it this way lets the 3d card handle semi-transparency (alpha) in a much more efficient way than had to be done by hand in the old VGA days.

Deebaser

BeNarwhal wrote: »

Cut off my brother's head

That's not how you cure head cancer!
You're going to jail!!!

because he's the only person in this picture who would care if their likeness was spread across the interwebs
]

Nvm

BeNarwhal

So It Goes wrote: »

Deebaser wrote: »

bloodyroarxx wrote: »

goddamn

Angelina Jolie had a preventive double mastectomy because she had a high risk for breast cancer

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/14/opinion/my-medical-choice.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

Not being a doctor, that seems completely insane. I hear I am high risk for testicular cancer and I think "OK, we'll I'm going to be on top of this and get regular check ups and not fuck around if anything seems off". I don't have them removed in a preemptive strike against cnsur.

But yeah, I'm not a doctor.

maybe she was tired of carrying them around

I feel this way about my testicles sometimes.

Zephiran

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22519384

A prominent Japanese politician has described as "necessary" the system by which women were forced to become prostitutes for World War II troops.

Osaka Mayor Toru Hashimoto said the "comfort women" gave soldiers putting their lives at risk a chance "to rest".

...

Mr Hashimoto, the co-founder of the nationalist Japanese Restoration Party, was the youngest governor in Japanese history before becoming mayor of Osaka.

He said last year that Japan needed "a dictatorship".

ronya

RiemannLives wrote: »

ronya there is an upside of having to deal with all this malarkey just to draw a 2d sprite to the screen (and this is true of openGL as it is of DirectX, its not specific to any one company or technology stack) and that is it lets you apply hardware shaders onto the 2d output. Which is a much better way to handle stuff like fogging, lighting, glow etc... than the old ways.

but the penalty is that Braid brings a high-end GPU to its knees, I guess.

Organichu

i think my balls are pretty normal but i distinctly remember being about 11 years old and having a female doctor perform my turn-and-cough testicular check. she couldn't find them at first, which was about the most humiliating point of my initial-puberty life. took her like 10 seconds of poking around to find a nut.

seppuku, and so on

evilbob

BeNarwhal wrote: »

Cut off my brother's head because he's the only person in this picture who would care if their likeness was spread across the interwebs

But I had to share this pic

Not so much for me, kneeling in the background

But because of interaction between babby and grandpa

Ah yes, taking a photo of yourself with something cute. The cheapest way to get awesomes.

I on the other hand would never stoop to that level... >.>

Cinders

You people are going to make me destroy my liver tonight, aren't you.

Ravenhpltc24

Organichu wrote: »

i think my balls are pretty normal but i distinctly remember being about 11 years old and having a female doctor perform my turn-and-cough testicular check. she couldn't find them at first, which was about the most humiliating point of my initial-puberty life. took her like 10 seconds of poking around to find a nut.

seppuku, and so on

Man, I wasn't naked in front of my doctor until I was like 17. I can't imagine how traumatized I would have been having to whip out the vag at 11.

Elendil

i should pick up ME3 again

Zampanov

ronya wrote: »

RiemannLives wrote: »

ronya there is an upside of having to deal with all this malarkey just to draw a 2d sprite to the screen (and this is true of openGL as it is of DirectX, its not specific to any one company or technology stack) and that is it lets you apply hardware shaders onto the 2d output. Which is a much better way to handle stuff like fogging, lighting, glow etc... than the old ways.

but the penalty is that Braid brings a high-end GPU to its knees, I guess.

I don't ever remember having a problem with it

radeon hd 4870 is pretty solid but not really high end

RiemannLives

ronya wrote: »

RiemannLives wrote: »

ronya there is an upside of having to deal with all this malarkey just to draw a 2d sprite to the screen (and this is true of openGL as it is of DirectX, its not specific to any one company or technology stack) and that is it lets you apply hardware shaders onto the 2d output. Which is a much better way to handle stuff like fogging, lighting, glow etc... than the old ways.

but the penalty is that Braid brings a high-end GPU to its knees, I guess.

hmm, I think there is probably room for optimization there. A lot of room. Though Braid is pretty nutballs crazy with its use of parallax. There are many times the size of the screen worth of textures being drawn to the screen each frame.

You'd never have been able to do anything even close to that on an old card.

Shivahn

Deebaser wrote: »

bloodyroarxx wrote: »

goddamn

Angelina Jolie had a preventive double mastectomy because she had a high risk for breast cancer

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/14/opinion/my-medical-choice.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

Not being a doctor, that seems completely insane. I hear I am high risk for testicular cancer and I think "OK, we'll I'm going to be on top of this and get regular check ups and not fuck around if anything seems off". I don't have them removed in a preemptive strike against cnsur.

But yeah, I'm not a doctor.

You also don't have an 87% chance of breast cancer.

Flip a coin three times. Were they all heads? No? You got breast cancer.

Her numbers are fucking insane.

Shivahn

Like I get not doing it but those numbers are just o.O

Like what the fuck nature

BeNarwhal

Having had bladder / kidney surgery at age 12, I know that pain all to well, 'Chu

Laying in a hospital bed, immobilized, as a team of doctors and your parents lift up the hospital gown you're wearing to look at the result of the surgery

Which happens to be immediately above my junk

Inquisitor

Zephiran wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22519384

A prominent Japanese politician has described as "necessary" the system by which women were forced to become prostitutes for World War II troops.

Osaka Mayor Toru Hashimoto said the "comfort women" gave soldiers putting their lives at risk a chance "to rest".

...

Mr Hashimoto, the co-founder of the nationalist Japanese Restoration Party, was the youngest governor in Japanese history before becoming mayor of Osaka.

He said last year that Japan needed "a dictatorship".

Sounds like this guy has a pretty solid history of saying utterly stupid things, oh my.

I wonder what he actually said though (in Japanese), but still, geeze.

This is the problem with the youth not voting in Japan, most of the voters were still alive during WW2... :P

Inquisitor

Also, getting rid of your balls would complicate your life in terms of hormones and stuff.

Scooping at your breasts does not (to my knowledge?) carry that same complications. Get some implants and really things are not too much different. Except for, you know, now you are not almost guaranteed to get cancer.

Mortious

Ravenhpltc24 wrote: »

Irond Will wrote: »

Ravenhpltc24 wrote: »

Upon further inspection, I declare Matt Smith fit to rock the shaved-head look. He just has that much swag.





And his head scar is still badass.

i won't lie

he is kind of an ugly dude

He does tend to divide the masses this way. He's a hell of a young actor though. If you have the patience, this clip from earlier this season blew me away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuDGzIz2uMM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lXu9b8mQqt8#!

evilbob

Ravenhpltc24 wrote: »

Organichu wrote: »

i think my balls are pretty normal but i distinctly remember being about 11 years old and having a female doctor perform my turn-and-cough testicular check. she couldn't find them at first, which was about the most humiliating point of my initial-puberty life. took her like 10 seconds of poking around to find a nut.

seppuku, and so on

Man, I wasn't naked in front of my doctor until I was like 17. I can't imagine how traumatized I would have been having to whip out the vag at 11.

You can whip it out?

Are...

are you sure it's a vag?

Mojo_Jojo

Organichu wrote: »

i think my balls are pretty normal but i distinctly remember being about 11 years old and having a female doctor perform my turn-and-cough testicular check. she couldn't find them at first, which was about the most humiliating point of my initial-puberty life. took her like 10 seconds of poking around to find a nut.

seppuku, and so on

The cupping and cough thing is an actual thing a doctor has done to you?

I dont think that outside of low brow comedy that happens as part of a check up. And this is before we get to the question of what is going on to make your balls missable