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japan

Echo wrote: »

japan wrote: »

Has anyone used wiki software, in particular any of the "lightweight" systems around?

I'm wondering if there's any advantage in any of them over Mediawiki given that I have a working and configured LAMP server, since most of them seem to cite the fact that they don't require one as points in their favour.

japan I like DokuWiki. Light and simple, the current version of an article is a plain text file. No database needed.

https://www.dokuwiki.org/dokuwiki

@Echo

Interesting. Is there anything that this doesn't do that mediawiki does?

I'm basically setting this up as a dump for organising information that I can update from wherever. I'm not averse to full-blown mediawiki and it seems easy enough to administer.

Solomaxwell6

Saying "bennies" instead of "benefits" is super dumb and anyone who says that is dead to me.

Sarksus

Evil Multifarious wrote: »

Availability of raw information reduces to pictures of cats doing funny or cute things

Seems like a net gain.

Sarksus

Yeah I wanna play Hearthstone!

desc

y2jake215 wrote: »

@desc are you famous yet

@y2jake215 jakey I don't do it for the fame; I do it for my people

Echo

japan wrote: »

Interesting. Is there anything that this doesn't do that mediawiki does?

Nothing I ever ran into. But I never really did fancy stuff either. I just wrote things that linked to other pages in the wiki and stuff. Sometimes with an image.

AManFromEarth

I guess I should point out that threatening to take away Ham's diploma was a joke.

You humorless hitlerspawn.

Inquisitor

Also keeping an eye on solforge

The test versions have had some promise.

Sarksus

Organichu wrote: »

so where should i put my github on a resume angling for an internship? under contact info and stuff? or under the profile/skills section?

I would say put the main page in with your email and other contact information and then when you talk about your projects you can link to them individually.

MadCaddy

Are people In this thread saying the internet wasn't a net good and has allowed man to do a great many things we otherwise would not have been able to do?

I totally did not expect to hear that from here.

Hamurabi

AManFromEarth wrote: »

I guess I should point out that threatening to take away Ham's diploma was a joke.

You humorless hitlerspawn.

Well then I guess I can go take it out of the safety deposit box then.

Variable

hahaha http://mangoinyourmouth.com/

Kalkino

Wild rice, with spring onions and butter is very tasty. That is all

AManFromEarth

Hamurabi wrote: »

AManFromEarth wrote: »

I guess I should point out that threatening to take away Ham's diploma was a joke.

You humorless hitlerspawn.

Well then I guess I can go take it out of the safety deposit box then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYDkGJmSfy0

Echo

I mean, it's not like I can play with two decks at once.

And I can just delete a deck and use the cards for a new deck. Locking a card to one deck is just a big annoyance that doesn't accomplish anything at all.

It's easy to bypass; it's just time-consuming and irritating as fuck.

Couscous

The internet has been a huge driver of change. I don't see how being a tool doesn't mean it can't also drive change. They aren't mutually exclusive. The airplane drove changes while still being a tool.

Thomamelas

http://youtu.be/AALxZaXJiKA

Three wheeling. Because one came off.

So It Goes

AManFromEarth wrote: »

Inquisitor wrote: »

AManFromEarth wrote: »

Basically the internet is neutral. It is all about how you use it. A hammer can either build a house or kill a hooker. The choice is yours.

But you just listed two good things for the hammer...?

My god

love is like a brick
you can build a house
or sink a dead body

- Gaga

Winky

AManFromEarth wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

AManFromEarth wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

Hamurabi wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

The internet makes us better people.

On the other hand...

That was a silly, forced idea that belied why the internet is even beneficial. It tried to over-simplify an issue for mass consumption to make it an easy sell.

The real benefit of the internet comes from the level of intellectual engagement people will just glom onto organically.

If we really wanted to stop Kony, we just need to give more Ugandan's internet access.

Of course for the good things the internet does, there are bad things.

I don't think the internet makes us better people. It is just used by people to do good or harm as they would otherwise; with the added reach that the internet gives them.

Don't get me wrong, I acknowledge that the internet is not like some unambiguous force for good or something.

Rather, I'm arguing that even with all the extremely negative ways these kinds of information technology can be used, they will cause us to tend naturally towards a more intelligent and empathetic populace over time.

I just don't think that's accurate given the evidence we see.

Antivaxxers have gotten more powerful, sad and angry people have gotten more of an audience, pedophiles have more ways to hide and act out their wishes, and SE++ still exists.

Over time the human race becomes more intelligent as a matter of course, the internet is just a tool. There isn't anything about it that is making us "better". We're still on the same trajectory. It's just a tool I guess.

*shrug*

Do a google search for antivaccination. How many of the links do you see there that speak positively of the movement?

As for pedophiles:

The estimated number of sexually abused children under the Harm
Standard decreased from 217,700 in 1993 to 135,300 in 2005–2006 (a
38% decrease in the number of sexually abused children and a 44%
decrease in the rate of sexual abuse)

http://www.law.harvard.edu/programs/about/cap/cap-conferences/rd-conference/rd-conference-papers/sedlaknis.pdf

You think these are growing problems because we continually hear more about them: what we hear is more outrage, and from the outrage has been following a huge decline in them.

AngelHedgie

AngelHedgie wrote: »

Inquisitor wrote: »

The internet gives us access to an insane amount of information, like never before.

And it lets us interact meaningfully with people in different countries, all around the world, like never before.

Both of these are pretty huge net positives for humanity, imo.

Information in of itself is of limited utility. In fact, availability of raw information can have an entrenching effect.

This piece talks about the difference between having information, and being able to use it, and how there's more to openness than how much data is available.

japan

Echo wrote: »

japan wrote: »

Interesting. Is there anything that this doesn't do that mediawiki does?

Nothing I ever ran into. But I never really did fancy stuff either. I just wrote things that linked to other pages in the wiki and stuff. Sometimes with an image.

Hmm. I think my problem here is that I really don't know enough about wiki software to make meaningful decisions.

Fuck it, they're both in the Ubuntu repositories, I might as well install both and have a fiddle.

Sarksus

Variable wrote: »

hahaha http://mangoinyourmouth.com/

Netflix is doing a lot for this

I hope it's not to cover up that it's bad.

Mortious

I've never heard of this Kony 2012 thing.

Anybody willing to give me the rundown?

AngelHedgie

MadCaddy wrote: »

Are people In this thread saying the internet wasn't a net good and has allowed man to do a great many things we otherwise would not have been able to do?

I totally did not expect to hear that from here.

Not all of us are digital determinists.

Ravenhpltc24

Hamurabi wrote: »

Ravenhpltc24 wrote: »

So annoyed my best friend didn't get a senior pass because she's stupid. She can't go to any of the events and is getting all defensive and pissy. She could buy in to any of the events for like $10-20, but she's all "I don't think it's worth it." Bitch, it's worth it to have fun and get drunk with your friends this week.

God what a bitch.

I hate her so much.

Hey shut up, that's my best friend. Only I can call her a bitch.

Couscous

The MMR vaccine scare got its start in 1998, before social media became a thing. The traditional media caused the scare.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy

Observers have criticized the involvement of mass media in the controversy, what is known as 'science by press conference',[41] alleging that the media provided Wakefield's study with more credibility than it deserved. A March 2007 paper in BMC Public Health by Shona Hilton, Mark Petticrew, and Kate Hunt postulated that media reports on Wakefield's study had "created the misleading impression that the evidence for the link with autism was as substantial as the evidence against".[98] Earlier papers in Communication in Medicine and British Medical Journal concluded that media reports provided a misleading picture of the level of support for Wakefield's theory.[99][100][101]

Sarksus

If the new Arrested Development is bad I will like

not live anymore

AngelHedgie

Winky wrote: »

AManFromEarth wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

AManFromEarth wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

Hamurabi wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

The internet makes us better people.

On the other hand...

That was a silly, forced idea that belied why the internet is even beneficial. It tried to over-simplify an issue for mass consumption to make it an easy sell.

The real benefit of the internet comes from the level of intellectual engagement people will just glom onto organically.

If we really wanted to stop Kony, we just need to give more Ugandan's internet access.

Of course for the good things the internet does, there are bad things.

I don't think the internet makes us better people. It is just used by people to do good or harm as they would otherwise; with the added reach that the internet gives them.

Don't get me wrong, I acknowledge that the internet is not like some unambiguous force for good or something.

Rather, I'm arguing that even with all the extremely negative ways these kinds of information technology can be used, they will cause us to tend naturally towards a more intelligent and empathetic populace over time.

I just don't think that's accurate given the evidence we see.

Antivaxxers have gotten more powerful, sad and angry people have gotten more of an audience, pedophiles have more ways to hide and act out their wishes, and SE++ still exists.

Over time the human race becomes more intelligent as a matter of course, the internet is just a tool. There isn't anything about it that is making us "better". We're still on the same trajectory. It's just a tool I guess.

*shrug*

Do a google search for antivaccination. How many of the links do you see there that speak positively of the movement?

As for pedophiles:

The estimated number of sexually abused children under the Harm
Standard decreased from 217,700 in 1993 to 135,300 in 2005–2006 (a
38% decrease in the number of sexually abused children and a 44%
decrease in the rate of sexual abuse)

http://www.law.harvard.edu/programs/about/cap/cap-conferences/rd-conference/rd-conference-papers/sedlaknis.pdf

You think these are growing problems because we continually hear more about them: what we hear is more outrage, and from the outrage has been following a huge decline in them.

And yet the antivaxxers control the pursestrings when it comes to autism research.

AManFromEarth

Ah yes, a google search. As rigorous a study as wikipedia.

I just don't think the internet is making us better. Inertia is making us better, the internet can help us, but it isn't the thing that is doing it.

I like the internet, I see some of my favorite porn on it. But it's a neutral thing to me.

MadCaddy

AManFromEarth wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

AManFromEarth wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

Hamurabi wrote: »

Winky wrote: »

The internet makes us better people.

On the other hand...

That was a silly, forced idea that belied why the internet is even beneficial. It tried to over-simplify an issue for mass consumption to make it an easy sell.

The real benefit of the internet comes from the level of intellectual engagement people will just glom onto organically.

If we really wanted to stop Kony, we just need to give more Ugandan's internet access.

Of course for the good things the internet does, there are bad things.

I don't think the internet makes us better people. It is just used by people to do good or harm as they would otherwise; with the added reach that the internet gives them.

Don't get me wrong, I acknowledge that the internet is not like some unambiguous force for good or something.

Rather, I'm arguing that even with all the extremely negative ways these kinds of information technology can be used, they will cause us to tend naturally towards a more intelligent and empathetic populace over time.

I just don't think that's accurate given the evidence we see.

Antivaxxers have gotten more powerful, sad and angry people have gotten more of an audience, pedophiles have more ways to hide and act out their wishes, and SE++ still exists.

Over time the human race becomes more intelligent as a matter of course, the internet is just a tool. There isn't anything about it that is making us "better". We're still on the same trajectory. It's just a tool I guess.

*shrug*

o_O

Sarksus

This discussion is too anecdotal for me you folks

Mortious

So It Goes wrote: »

AManFromEarth wrote: »

Inquisitor wrote: »

AManFromEarth wrote: »

Basically the internet is neutral. It is all about how you use it. A hammer can either build a house or kill a hooker. The choice is yours.

But you just listed two good things for the hammer...?

My god

love is like a brick
you can build a house
or sink a dead body

- Gaga

Life's a filet of fish, eh!
… Yes, it is

-Muppets

Sarksus

I wanna play GTA5 super bad

AngelHedgie

AManFromEarth wrote: »

Ah yes, a google search. As rigorous a study as wikipedia.

I just don't think the internet is making us better. Inertia is making us better, the internet can help us, but it isn't the thing that is doing it.

I like the internet, I see some of my favorite porn on it. But it's a neutral thing to me.

Stop making me agree with you!

So It Goes

Sarksus wrote: »

If the new Arrested Development is bad I will like

not live anymore

stahp

AManFromEarth

Sarksus wrote: »

If the new Arrested Development is bad I will like

not live anymore

And yet you people think the internet is inherently good.


I'm sure it'll be fun, maybe a little clunky at first, but still good. I mean, they have Jason Bateman and Will Arnett, how bad could it get?

Hamurabi

ITT: kitties

Variable

Sarksus wrote: »

Variable wrote: »

hahaha http://mangoinyourmouth.com/

Netflix is doing a lot for this

I hope it's not to cover up that it's bad.

I don't think that's how marketing works

Mortious

Yup, those are indeed kitties.

Are they your kitties?

Mail me one.

Sarksus

Variable wrote: »

Sarksus wrote: »

Variable wrote: »

hahaha http://mangoinyourmouth.com/

Netflix is doing a lot for this

I hope it's not to cover up that it's bad.

I don't think that's how marketing works

Marketing has frequently made me think something will be good, and then it turns out to be bad.