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  • SarksusSarksus TEN FUCKING DOLLARS Registered User regular
    Sarksus wrote: »
    If the new Arrested Development is bad I will like

    not live anymore

    And yet you people think the internet is inherently good.


    I'm sure it'll be fun, maybe a little clunky at first, but still good. I mean, they have Jason Bateman and Will Arnett, how bad could it get?

    I don't want something good, I want Arrested Development!
  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    I'm 100% on Winky's side on this one.
    I am comforted by Richard Dawkins’ theory of memes. Those are mental units: thoughts, ideas, gestures, notions, songs, beliefs, rhymes, ideals, teachings, sayings, phrases, clichés that move from mind to mind as genes move from body to body. After a lifetime of writing, teaching, broadcasting and telling too many jokes, I will leave behind more memes than many. They will all also eventually die, but so it goes. - Roger Ebert, I Do Not Fear Death
  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    I think Vari's point is generally you don't waste marketing budget on something if you think it is going to tank.
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  • MadCaddyMadCaddy Riksadvokate Registered User regular
    Also all those electronic journals? Yeah, they'd be made of paper twenty years ago.

    So that's not really a new thing. It's not like pre 1992 academics were just consulting the encyclopedia britannica and calling it a day.

    The internet is a tool, not a driver.

    Yes, like the Gutenberg press was a tool... Do you understand economies of scale? Detriments to artificial scarcity would've been something I thought was on a great many PAers political agendas.
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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Ah yes, a google search. As rigorous a study as wikipedia.

    I just don't think the internet is making us better. Inertia is making us better, the internet can help us, but it isn't the thing that is doing it.

    I like the internet, I see some of my favorite porn on it. But it's a neutral thing to me.

    It is the difference between saying that a person killed the hooker and that a bullet killed the hooker. There is no reason why the both can't be held responsible for the hooker's death.
  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »

    Netflix is doing a lot for this

    I hope it's not to cover up that it's bad.

    I don't think that's how marketing works

    Marketing has frequently made me think something will be good, and then it turns out to be bad.

    Look, Sarks, it' not like you'll need an always on connection to play the videos.

    (Stop being scared, I am confident it will be funny as hell).
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  • VariableVariable Stroke Me Lady Fame Registered User regular
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »

    Netflix is doing a lot for this

    I hope it's not to cover up that it's bad.

    I don't think that's how marketing works

    Marketing has frequently made me think something will be good, and then it turns out to be bad.

    is it the marketing that is making you think new AD will be good/bad? to me it's all a bonus

    I of course also don't want it to be bad I was just confused at the connection you made
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  • HamurabiHamurabi Registered User regular
    Mortious wrote: »
    Yup, those are indeed kitties.

    Are they your kitties?

    Mail me one.

    My little sister's. They're cute, but they're also a pain in the ass to look after so they gotta go.

    I talked to the vet day before yesterday, and according to him there aren't many no-kill shelters in Miami. He mentioned one run by the former (current?) owner of the Dolphins, Wayne Huizenga. I'll call there and see if they'll take 'em. My parents also suggested leaving them at the mosque, because apparently there're plenty of cats already living there.

    We'd have to fix them first, though, which will be expensive given the number of cats involved.
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  • WinkyWinky Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    The MMR vaccine scare got its start in 1998, before social media became a thing. The traditional media caused the scare.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy
    Observers have criticized the involvement of mass media in the controversy, what is known as 'science by press conference',[41] alleging that the media provided Wakefield's study with more credibility than it deserved. A March 2007 paper in BMC Public Health by Shona Hilton, Mark Petticrew, and Kate Hunt postulated that media reports on Wakefield's study had "created the misleading impression that the evidence for the link with autism was as substantial as the evidence against".[98] Earlier papers in Communication in Medicine and British Medical Journal concluded that media reports provided a misleading picture of the level of support for Wakefield's theory.[99][100][101]

    If anything the internet has fixed it.

    People constantly argue that if there's so much information out there, then clearly that will just mean that all the truth will be drowned out by the misinformation.

    This has never been shown to actually happen, though. Look at wikipedia! It's more stringent and reliable than ever. The truth has a huge benefit on its side: it's true. We're leaving the days of getting all of our information from a single source. We're increasing the sample size enormously, and we're relying on billions of other people who fundamentally just want to know the truth as much as you do. This is a basic signal processing problem: do you want to be receiving from one strong source that is all biased in the same direction, or do you want to be receiving from dozens of weaker sources that have different noise patterns? With the former, you have no sense of which direction the bias lies, with the latter you can compare and contrast to cancel out the noise.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    MadCaddy wrote: »
    Also all those electronic journals? Yeah, they'd be made of paper twenty years ago.

    So that's not really a new thing. It's not like pre 1992 academics were just consulting the encyclopedia britannica and calling it a day.

    The internet is a tool, not a driver.

    Yes, like the Gutenberg press was a tool... Do you understand economies of scale? Detriments to artificial scarcity would've been something I thought was on a great many PAers political agendas.

    Um, why? In a lot of ways, "artificial scarcity" is a scare term.
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  • VariableVariable Stroke Me Lady Fame Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    I'm so far on Winky's side on this that I find it absurd there's even a controversy here.

    If you'd been around in 1513 you'd be all "Eh, the printing press is doesn't do anything that we couldn't do with quills and the oral tradition."

    completely
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  • HamurabiHamurabi Registered User regular
    Hamurabi wrote: »
    So annoyed my best friend didn't get a senior pass because she's stupid. She can't go to any of the events and is getting all defensive and pissy. She could buy in to any of the events for like $10-20, but she's all "I don't think it's worth it." Bitch, it's worth it to have fun and get drunk with your friends this week.

    God what a bitch.

    I hate her so much.

    Hey shut up, that's my best friend. Only I can call her a bitch.

    Fine fine. Can I call AMFE a bitch, at least? God he's

    such

    a

    Bitch.
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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    I'm so far on Winky's side on this that I find it absurd there's even a controversy here.

    If you'd been around in 1513 you'd be all "Eh, the printing press is doesn't do anything that we couldn't do with quills and the oral tradition."

    If I had been around in 1513 I'd probably have died at birth due to complications.
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  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    man i could really go for some wow

    like

    3 or 4 days

    just sitting there playing wow for like 14 hours a day
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    I may have a bit of a man-crush on China Miéville.
  • VariableVariable Stroke Me Lady Fame Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    I'm so far on Winky's side on this that I find it absurd there's even a controversy here.

    If you'd been around in 1513 you'd be all "Eh, the printing press is doesn't do anything that we couldn't do with quills and the oral tradition."

    If I had been around in 1513 I'd probably have died at birth due to complications.

    all because they couldn't google how to deliver you
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  • MadCaddyMadCaddy Riksadvokate Registered User regular
    Hamurabi wrote: »
    I think trying to determine whether the Internet is overall a net positive is like asking whether radio or television were a net positive. I would say their positive outweigh their negatives, strictly in terms of utility derived.

    As to whether they make us "better people"... that's a really loaded question.

    Though the topic reminds me very strongly of back when people were asking whether the Arab Spring was "good for America." It just strikes me as such a silly question. It's like asking whether the tides are "good" -- you don't really judge their "goodness" so much as just deal with the consequences.

    I think the internet is more analogous to telegraph, actual written language and telephone as far as comparisons. It's the approachability and innovation through evolution, and the rapid evolution if a great many memes that've allowed a lot of our sociological changes in the US for the better, in recent memory.

    I'd say the average US citizen knows more about China and Africa now, and more about the wars were in, than during the 80s and earl 90s.
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  • wanderingwandering Registered User regular
    If I will no longer be able to say "Arrested Development is the greatest sitcom ever!"

    but instead will have to say something like "it's great, except for everything after season 3"

    I will be sad
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  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    I'm so far on Winky's side on this that I find it absurd there's even a controversy here.

    If you'd been around in 1513 you'd be all "Eh, the printing press is doesn't do anything that we couldn't do with quills and the oral tradition."

    If I had been around in 1513 I'd probably have died at birth due to complications.

    well okay yeah

    me too
    I am comforted by Richard Dawkins’ theory of memes. Those are mental units: thoughts, ideas, gestures, notions, songs, beliefs, rhymes, ideals, teachings, sayings, phrases, clichés that move from mind to mind as genes move from body to body. After a lifetime of writing, teaching, broadcasting and telling too many jokes, I will leave behind more memes than many. They will all also eventually die, but so it goes. - Roger Ebert, I Do Not Fear Death
  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    The internet is good. I like the internet.

    It isn't making us better people. But it is useful for the things that are.

    Jesus, I do not give enough of a shit to keep debating this.
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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    what should I make for dinner tonight!

    healthy plz

    for one person

    what do you have for food? I will give you a good idea.

    I'm going to the store in a bit so

    I should specify not chicken

    @So It Goes

    OK, not-chicken and easy. Do this:

    get:

    1 Leek
    Some Bacon
    Paprika
    Can of Chickpeas
    gresh garlic clove
    Some Baby Spinach
    1 Tilapia Filet

    Take only the white part of the leek. Split it and slice the halves into thin strips no smaller than 1/4in. Toss them in a colander and wash them in cold water.

    Add olive oil to a pan and medium heat. Toss the leeks in the oil.

    In a separate pan make two strips bacon. set them aside and pour off most of the bacon fat, but not all of it.

    When the bacon is done, in the leek pan add the chickpeas with most of the water drained. Toss this with the leeks and cover, set aside on medium low for 5-7 minutes.
    Add salt + pepper+ smashed / diced garlic to the leeks + chickpeas.

    Season the Tilapia to your taste and cook it in the bacon pan with a little butter. I like to do salt + pepper + garlic but you might like rosemary + thyme in addition, or provincial herbs or anything else.

    When you flip the fish, taste the chickpeas, they should be getting quite soft and the leeks look like floppy noodles. Add enough paprika to color the dish red red and toss in half the spinach and crumble the bacon over all of it and stir it all and cover it until the fish is done.

    Serve mixed with raw spinach for a little bite, or not. Drizzle olive oil over it if you want.

    Total should take you less than 20min to prepare.
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  • OrganichuOrganichu Registered User regular
    fuck resumes forever

    *hulk smash*

    i hate this crap
  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    MadCaddy wrote: »
    Hamurabi wrote: »
    I think trying to determine whether the Internet is overall a net positive is like asking whether radio or television were a net positive. I would say their positive outweigh their negatives, strictly in terms of utility derived.

    As to whether they make us "better people"... that's a really loaded question.

    Though the topic reminds me very strongly of back when people were asking whether the Arab Spring was "good for America." It just strikes me as such a silly question. It's like asking whether the tides are "good" -- you don't really judge their "goodness" so much as just deal with the consequences.

    I think the internet is more analogous to telegraph, actual written language and telephone as far as comparisons. It's the approachability and innovation through evolution, and the rapid evolution if a great many memes that've allowed a lot of our sociological changes in the US for the better, in recent memory.

    I'd say the average US citizen knows more about China and Africa now, and more about the wars were in, than during the 80s and earl 90s.

    ...you did see that recent poll about where Bengazi is, right?
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  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    MadCaddy wrote: »
    Hamurabi wrote: »
    I think trying to determine whether the Internet is overall a net positive is like asking whether radio or television were a net positive. I would say their positive outweigh their negatives, strictly in terms of utility derived.

    As to whether they make us "better people"... that's a really loaded question.

    Though the topic reminds me very strongly of back when people were asking whether the Arab Spring was "good for America." It just strikes me as such a silly question. It's like asking whether the tides are "good" -- you don't really judge their "goodness" so much as just deal with the consequences.

    I think the internet is more analogous to telegraph, actual written language and telephone as far as comparisons. It's the approachability and innovation through evolution, and the rapid evolution if a great many memes that've allowed a lot of our sociological changes in the US for the better, in recent memory.

    I'd say the average US citizen knows more about China and Africa now, and more about the wars were in, than during the 80s and earl 90s.

    This is the first time in human history when (almost) any individual can swiftly communicate to an arbitrarily large audience, and that large audience can swiftly respond back.

    I kind of see that as a big deal.
    I am comforted by Richard Dawkins’ theory of memes. Those are mental units: thoughts, ideas, gestures, notions, songs, beliefs, rhymes, ideals, teachings, sayings, phrases, clichés that move from mind to mind as genes move from body to body. After a lifetime of writing, teaching, broadcasting and telling too many jokes, I will leave behind more memes than many. They will all also eventually die, but so it goes. - Roger Ebert, I Do Not Fear Death
  • SarksusSarksus TEN FUCKING DOLLARS Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Variable wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »

    Netflix is doing a lot for this

    I hope it's not to cover up that it's bad.

    I don't think that's how marketing works

    Marketing has frequently made me think something will be good, and then it turns out to be bad.

    is it the marketing that is making you think new AD will be good/bad? to me it's all a bonus

    I of course also don't want it to be bad I was just confused at the connection you made

    No, the marketing is making me excited. The marketing style is also quirky and isn't pandering but feels like it almost is. I am suspicious of this kind of marketing. Like they're trying really hard to hook me, but I'm already hooked by another season in the first place, so it feels like they could be covering something up. Like when a kid is being sweet after they fucked up.
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  • MimMim Registered User regular
    I feel like doing a re-watch of Buffy...
  • MadCaddyMadCaddy Riksadvokate Registered User regular
    MadCaddy wrote: »
    Also all those electronic journals? Yeah, they'd be made of paper twenty years ago.

    So that's not really a new thing. It's not like pre 1992 academics were just consulting the encyclopedia britannica and calling it a day.

    The internet is a tool, not a driver.

    Yes, like the Gutenberg press was a tool... Do you understand economies of scale? Detriments to artificial scarcity would've been something I thought was on a great many PAers political agendas.

    Um, why? In a lot of ways, "artificial scarcity" is a scare term.

    Please elaborate because I can assure you we're all given a very finite amount of time on this earth, and I think the internet has drastically increased the voice of every (wo)man, and is directly correlated with great sociological changes, and it is just the beginning.
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  • HamurabiHamurabi Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    I'm so far on Winky's side on this that I find it absurd there's even a controversy here.

    If you'd been around in 1513 you'd be all "Eh, the printing press is doesn't do anything that we couldn't do with quills and the oral tradition."

    If I had been around in 1513 I'd probably have died at birth due to complications.

    Not me.

    Good Aryan blood, y'know.
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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    MadCaddy wrote: »
    Hamurabi wrote: »
    I think trying to determine whether the Internet is overall a net positive is like asking whether radio or television were a net positive. I would say their positive outweigh their negatives, strictly in terms of utility derived.

    As to whether they make us "better people"... that's a really loaded question.

    Though the topic reminds me very strongly of back when people were asking whether the Arab Spring was "good for America." It just strikes me as such a silly question. It's like asking whether the tides are "good" -- you don't really judge their "goodness" so much as just deal with the consequences.

    I think the internet is more analogous to telegraph, actual written language and telephone as far as comparisons. It's the approachability and innovation through evolution, and the rapid evolution if a great many memes that've allowed a lot of our sociological changes in the US for the better, in recent memory.

    I'd say the average US citizen knows more about China and Africa now, and more about the wars were in, than during the 80s and earl 90s.

    This is the first time in human history when (almost) any individual can swiftly communicate to an arbitrarily large audience, and that large audience can swiftly respond back.

    I kind of see that as a big deal.

    It is a big deal. It is not inherently "Good."
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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Mim wrote: »
    I feel like doing a re-watch of Buffy...

    No Mim! Self-harm is never the answer!
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  • EriktheVikingGamerEriktheVikingGamer Barbara Streisand! Registered User regular
    Grr.... Since when did resumes become all about presentation and not about qualifications or presenting a willingness to work?

    #jobless4life
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  • VariableVariable Stroke Me Lady Fame Registered User regular
    I will be confining my discussion of AD to chat here and there and then only with my friends, though. I get pissed enough about shows I care way less about when people shit on them, not planning to deal with that for a show that I've enjoyed for so long.

    and people will shit on it, rest assured. because it's a big deal and shitting on things is very easy to do.
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  • MadCaddyMadCaddy Riksadvokate Registered User regular
    We're turning into an information economy, and the Internet is an equalizer of information. Therefore, in my opinion it's a net gain.
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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Also all those electronic journals? Yeah, they'd be made of paper twenty years ago.

    So that's not really a new thing. It's not like pre 1992 academics were just consulting the encyclopedia britannica and calling it a day.

    The internet is a tool, not a driver.

    I feel you're completely wrong about this. The synergy and connectedness, the lowered gatekeeping inherent in easier access to information, the availability of peers across a wider scope of distance and expertise, in a far shorter amount of time...

    Believing that the internet is not a driver is a very strange thing. I think you've left off a lot of truths in order to arrive at the idea.
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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    fuck resumes forever

    *hulk smash*

    i hate this crap

    Just find a place you want to work, walking on a monday morning, sit at a desk, and start doing a job. If anyone questions you tell them to take it up with Bill in accounting.
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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    MadCaddy wrote: »
    Hamurabi wrote: »
    I think trying to determine whether the Internet is overall a net positive is like asking whether radio or television were a net positive. I would say their positive outweigh their negatives, strictly in terms of utility derived.

    As to whether they make us "better people"... that's a really loaded question.

    Though the topic reminds me very strongly of back when people were asking whether the Arab Spring was "good for America." It just strikes me as such a silly question. It's like asking whether the tides are "good" -- you don't really judge their "goodness" so much as just deal with the consequences.

    I think the internet is more analogous to telegraph, actual written language and telephone as far as comparisons. It's the approachability and innovation through evolution, and the rapid evolution if a great many memes that've allowed a lot of our sociological changes in the US for the better, in recent memory.

    I'd say the average US citizen knows more about China and Africa now, and more about the wars were in, than during the 80s and earl 90s.

    This is the first time in human history when (almost) any individual can swiftly communicate to an arbitrarily large audience, and that large audience can swiftly respond back.

    I kind of see that as a big deal.

    It is a big deal. It is not inherently "Good."

    Who said it was inherently good?
  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Registered User regular
    I own 117 romance novels, and 41 books on political history. Of those, 14 and 8 respectively remain unread.
  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    MadCaddy wrote: »
    Hamurabi wrote: »
    I think trying to determine whether the Internet is overall a net positive is like asking whether radio or television were a net positive. I would say their positive outweigh their negatives, strictly in terms of utility derived.

    As to whether they make us "better people"... that's a really loaded question.

    Though the topic reminds me very strongly of back when people were asking whether the Arab Spring was "good for America." It just strikes me as such a silly question. It's like asking whether the tides are "good" -- you don't really judge their "goodness" so much as just deal with the consequences.

    I think the internet is more analogous to telegraph, actual written language and telephone as far as comparisons. It's the approachability and innovation through evolution, and the rapid evolution if a great many memes that've allowed a lot of our sociological changes in the US for the better, in recent memory.

    I'd say the average US citizen knows more about China and Africa now, and more about the wars were in, than during the 80s and earl 90s.

    This is the first time in human history when (almost) any individual can swiftly communicate to an arbitrarily large audience, and that large audience can swiftly respond back.

    I kind of see that as a big deal.

    It is a big deal. It is not inherently "Good."

    I think that knowledge and communication, over the long term, shake out to a net good.

    Yes, communication technology facilitates the spread of falsehoods and ignorance just as it facilitates the spread of knowledge, but it seems pretty clear to me that truth eventually wins that fight.
    I am comforted by Richard Dawkins’ theory of memes. Those are mental units: thoughts, ideas, gestures, notions, songs, beliefs, rhymes, ideals, teachings, sayings, phrases, clichés that move from mind to mind as genes move from body to body. After a lifetime of writing, teaching, broadcasting and telling too many jokes, I will leave behind more memes than many. They will all also eventually die, but so it goes. - Roger Ebert, I Do Not Fear Death
  • So It GoesSo It Goes Sip. Sip sip sippy. Dumb whores. Best friends.Registered User regular
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »

    Netflix is doing a lot for this

    I hope it's not to cover up that it's bad.

    I don't think that's how marketing works

    Marketing has frequently made me think something will be good, and then it turns out to be bad.

    is it the marketing that is making you think new AD will be good/bad? to me it's all a bonus

    I of course also don't want it to be bad I was just confused at the connection you made

    No, the marketing is making me excited. The marketing style is also quirky and isn't pandering but feels like it almost is. I am suspicious of this kind of marketing. Like they're trying really hard to hook me, but I'm already hooked by another season in the first place, so it feels like they could be covering something up. Like when a kid is being sweet after they fucked up.

    I plan on liking it unless evidence shows me otherwise. I'm not going to plan on it being bad because why? what's the point?
    NO.
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