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A Thread of A Series of Books of A Song of Ice and Fire (BOOK AND TV SPOILERS HERE)
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It's other TV series like with Sean Bean you have to watch for.
EDIT: That said, don't link to say, the AV Club's coverage of the news.
Unless he signs on for a new TV show, nothing has been ruined yet.
thpoilers.
A friend of mine spoiled Ned's death for me with this.
Can you blame him? She's the Iron Throne of people.
He joined the Kingsguard so he wouldn't have to sit on her.
(Was going to post ut over there but I don't think the show covered Tywin's previous attempts to play match maker.)
Hey! Speaking of Jaime
he's in the background of this picture of Brienne.
Or maybe I just wanted to share that picture of Brienne. Found it on Jaime's wiki page, and this is now how I will be picturing her in future books.
They don't even care about Sandor though. I think that will change if they keep his part in the RW.
I'm waiting for Jaime's return too. I really look forward to his heart-to-heart with Tyrion.
""I have made kings and unmade them. Sansa Stark is my last chance at honor."
I'm of the opinion that Brienne and Tyrion are not nearly as freakish as people say they are (or they believe themselves to be), so I never really visualized them that way (especially since I saw Dinklage before I picked up the books). That pic seemed like a great visualization of Brienne as she might see herself at the height of her self-loathing. So in the spirit of getting all the way inside her head, I thought it might be interesting to keep that image in mind while reading a Brienne POV.
I'm looking forward to Jaime's vigil over Tywin. Not the biggest moment but I bet NCW will make it a fantastic, even if it's only a scene or two.
TV tends to make even characters who are supposed to be unattractive or who don't fit their "proper" gender roles -- I mean, that's a major part of their character -- much more attractive because, y'know, The Magic of Television™.
I forget exactly how we got here, basically, on-screen.
Edit: my sense is no, though I don't know how well House Bolton or the Dreadfort has been introduced either, because it seems stupid easy to deduce at least that much from context.
See, and the people I know that are show only don't seem to even make that connection, and I wasn't sure if that was just them.
Like, banners sure, but what percentage of viewers even notice banners other than wolves and lions? Half my friends can't even name most of the main characters.
When they seem confused I've taken to suggesting they read the books. They do read fantasy series, so it's not a crazy suggestion, and as the show goes on it feels more and more like Harry Potter to me...the movies are only good as a visual aid to the books. They don't entirely make sense on their own, too much is lost or glossed over.
The first season wasn't so bad, the story was tighter then. But now? I have no idea how show viewers who don't hang out all day on forums even keep up.
It took until the most recent episode for the AV Club's newbie reviewer to notice, and they're paid to do this. I don't think Sepinwall has. A few of the more obsessive people on various forums have gotten it. So yeah, it's a subtle thing. One of the cuts last week did make it pretty obvious though. From torture to Bolton with Jaime and Brienne or vice versa.
On the larger point, I think that's totally reasonable. Sprawling doesn't begin and we're absolutely sprinting through the first two thirds of ASOS to get to the Red Wedding. And then we've got 11 episodes for the last 400 pages. Which might be good news for Feast/Dance haters as they might have to get into that earlier (especially for Bran, for example) and only spend 1.5 seasons on them.
If there were no books, this would be something for the obsessive fan theorists to pick up. I think that since there *are* books, this really puts people off obsessively theorizing. Where's the fun, when you could be proved right or wrong with one glance at wikipedia?
I was honestly confused after just season 1, wondering why people who only watched the show cared THAT MUCH about the show and the characters. The plot is more straightforward but the history of the world and the characters, and their internal motivations, is such a huge part of the books which is not so much present in the show. And it just gets even crazier. Of course I'm ecstatic that people love it enough to keep it running and get a bigger budget, etc., but I'll never quite understand it.
Also that climbing gear picture is amazing. The colors!
That was great, and I'm also fond of Climbing, Weaponry, and Climbing Weaponry
This got me thinking about the Iron Islanders that sold Theon out. While Rob promised them safe passage if they gave up Theon, nothing about Ramsay suggests that he would/did honor such a promise. I mean this is Ramsay we are talking about, 12 torture puppets for his very own? No way he would pass that up. He also implied that the Iron Islanders where all gone when he got to Winterfell, so nobody would suspect he has them.
Which brings me to Theon's story. What better way to show Theon being tortured into Reek, then by Theon starting off torturing those same Iron Islanders? If the show could pull of a genuine horrifying Stockholm Syndrome storyline, that would be some amazing writing/acting. We haven't seen them and if next few episodes don't show them on the Iron Island, what do you guys think are the chances they are going in that direction?
If they show too much torture, even with non-Theon folks, then they risk it losing its shock value.
in the books theres never much indication Ramsay cares one way or the other about Bran
Ramsay, is that you?
Ramsay Snow?
But yes, that would be an interesting direction to go. They might also use those guys for when Theon negotiates whatever fort's surrender.
Don't call him that!
I wonder if they'll get some of the Wyman Manderly story stuff started a little earlier. Trying to figure out how to manage the AFFC/ADWD stuff is probably gonna be a headache, this could be the beginning of their attempt to handle it.
Me too, but I won't refute the "see a shrink" comment either. :rotate:
I just assume in book-timeline that those guys marched out of Winterfell, handed sack-o'-Theon to Ramsay's guys, and were immediately killed. There's more to keeping Theon as his pet and torture object for Ramsay than just "things to play with"... he could go grab peasants whenever he wants (and does, re: the girls he hunts). I don't think he'd keep them around long. But Theon is a special toy.
Gendry is taking the place of Edric Storm. Just like how Strong Belwas isn't a thing, too many characters to keep track of for the show.
And Shireen is standing in for both Pylos (teaching Davos to read) and Patchface (creepy fucking songs). As well as herself, obviously.
Saw elsewhere an interesting suggestion re: royal blood. Davos smuggles Gendry off Dragonstone before he can be sacrificed to the Lord of Light, so Melisandre takes the bottled babies instead of the thing with leeches.
They aren't gonna show Theon torturing anyone because that would kinda ruin where his character is supposed to be for the events of ADWD and his development there. He's supposed to be broken, he's not supposed to become the enemy.