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A Thread of A Series of Books of A Song of Ice and Fire (BOOK AND TV SPOILERS HERE)
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I mean, I know the slaves were treated terribly, for example. But I don't remember any graphic torture scenes, especially with children in. I don't know what Yar is talking about.
Not just blondes, but Lannister blondes, and same results when coupling Lannister men with Baratheon women as well.
When Eddard is confronting Cersei about her infidelity, he thinks back to how he's gone through the big book of family trees pretty thoroughly. Ned was learning about genetics before he died!
"Grand Maester Malleon recorded the last mating between stag and lion, some ninety years ago, when Tya Lannister wed Gowen Baratheon, third son of the reigning lord. Their only issue, an unnamed boy described in Malleon’s tome as a large and lusty lad born with a full head of black hair, died in infancy. Thirty years before that a male Lannister had taken a Baratheon maid to wife. She had given him three daughters and a son, each black-haired. No matter how far back Ned searched in the brittle yellowed pages, always he found the gold yielding before the coal."
Makes me shake my head that Shireen on the TV show doesn't have darker hair. All the fan art of her from before the TV show was like, "Oh, of course she has black hair. She's a Baratheon."
It's also not been shown that the world is anything but very traditional. Traditionally this has always happened, so this is expected. People so far have not been shown to be outside the box thinkers about the natural world.
To be fair when I was shireen's age I had blonde hair too
Now it's just brown.
You were replaced by a Skrull Faceless Man, though.
Same. When I was little, my hair was bright blonde. Now it's damn near black.
Ramsay is a much scarier villain than Joffrey. The latter is little more than a psychopath who lucked into a fortunate family/political position. He's fundamentally incompetent, and is only powerful because of circumstances his personality had nothing to do with. Ramsay is apparently wicked smart and is in many ways why he is where he is.
I like the torture scenes, but not because of the torture; I like that the earlier escape incident revealed a lot about Theon's understanding of himself and his position. I like that the torture scenes since then have established Ramsay as both evil and smart, and I think this (and the glimpse of the rapey guys that Ramsay killed) show a little bit about what the Dreadfort and its ruling family are all about.
Problem is we're the only ones who know it's Ramsay. Show watchers are totally confused and alienated by it. Some of them have caught that yes, it's probably the Boltons, but not all. And the payoff won't come for at LEAST two more seasons. It's bad storytelling.
Looked fucking awesome.
I know a few people with light hair who have pulled it off in small amounts, like highlights or tips, usually in the summer. Done right it can look great. If someone wore it like Daario though, it'd be nothing but hilarious I think.
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Not that I'm implying a world with dragons, giants, and living dead follows Mendelian genetics.
It's kind of a plot point, so yes, yes it does.
I don't expect that the show will go that long before the reveal that it's the Boltons. It's too important to leave out for so long. I actually expect them to let everyone know by the end of this season. If not, then very much by the end of next.
Yeah but real life barely follows Mendelian genetics.
That's why I figure it will get revealed this season. This will just be another reason why we consider the Boltons to be the scum of the earth. They wont just be traitors, they will be sadists. It adds another layer to their evil.
I mean, I guess you can say that it's unnecessary, but it's not obviously so.
Like I get that they like the actor and they can show a bit more of his transformation to Reek but honestly Theon's saga hasn't even payed off in the book yet. I can't imagine they can grind too much material out of him until his return in ADWD.
You need the mustache to pull it off.
That's what I'm figuring. Give him a couple spots in episodes next season, to keep it fresh and mostly just to sell the whole Reek thing, and then carry on full force once they start in on the AFFC/DWD seasons
Thanks, again, for this.
From part 31
perfect
Seriously, this blog is awesome, thanks for linking it!
When I realized a few months ago that Leigh would reach the Red Wedding at about the same time as the show, I basically did a spit take followed by a happy dance of sadistic glee.
Regarding blonde hair: just because it's a recessive trait on earth doesn't mean that it's a recessive trait on Westeros. Alternatively, the gene that gives Lannisters blonde hair could be different from the one that gives Shireen blonde hair, different genes having the same visible effect.
Yeah so replace Cersei with Tywin. He could have theoretically claimed that his seed is so strong that even his daughter would birth blonde babies to a Boratheon. Again, unless you're going to talk actual genetics, it's kind of hard to say that other Boratheons having brown-haired children, or even this Boratheon having them with other women, means anything about what kind of child he'd have with his wife.
I just don't see it playing out. Like, standing up in front of, what, the Small Council, and showing them a few brunette bastards and a book about Boratheon lineage? I don't see how that is going to be throne-toppling truth. Not unless you've got the muscle to take the throne regardless.
I guess I read different books. Children bashed to death with gauntlet fists, women placed naked in stocks for gangs to have their way with, rather lengthy dsecriptions of flaying Theon's finger and leaving it to fester. It was only during certain parts of certain books, but it seemed that when gurm got a bit of block, he'd just write the most horrible things he could think of for a while.
Don't forget the scene where a bunch of disemboweled, crucified, mostly still alive children were pointing the way to Meereen. (I think it was Meereen)
And then the talk of the violent gangrape of a young girl by the Mountain and his men while her family watched. Clearly, Berric Dondarrion might've been hiding in her vagina, and they all needed to check.
Oh, and all of Joff's animal abuse, from using rabbits and cats for target practice, to leaving said cat to slowly suffer and die, to how Tommen once had a pet fawn that Joff had killed and skinned so he could wear it (which is a horribly dickish move to do to your little brother).
Oh, and how Ramsay forces Theon to go down on Jeyne while he watches.
Then there was the time The Mountain fed Vargo Hoat pieces of Vargo Hoat.
EDIT: Yes, it's Meereen. They nailed up children pointing towards the city, and then Strong Belwas dropped a deuce towards the city. Personally, I hope we get to see Barristan do that instead.
Right? This ain't Heroes.
Wait, when did Jon Snow teach Theon how to cunnilingus
this plot hole is ridiculous I want my money back
Clearly, Ramsay warged into Ygritte's lady parts.
That's Joffrey being Joffrey. It'd be out of character for him not to do that.
Are we not? He was re-occuring in the first couple of seasons... though I guess we haven't seen him this year, have we?
The actor has confirmed that he hasn't filmed any scenes this season.
Apparently he's off hanging out with the real Tormund Giantsbane where they do manly things and Tormund tells jokes.