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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Sarksus wrote: »
    I would settle for living on a space station if we can't do Mars
    Why? it would be miserable.
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  • ShivahnShivahn Registered User regular
    japan wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Also making a NW character.

    Of course the beast slider is set to maximum by default.

    go full beast

    Full is the left side right

    Because I went pretty close to that.

    For someone who's like millimeters from flat on the bar, she sure is busty.

    You're not thinking like a game developer.

    "Flat" is around D-cup, and busty is "Twice the size of your head".

    Hmm.

    They should extend both ends.

    Flat can be flat and busty can be half of the character's volume. A compromise where everyone wins.

    What is depressing is, were you to make an MMO with a bust slider that at the extreme just morphed the character into a giant ambulatory boob, the number of people that would do just that.

    In a way it's perfect.

    Ambulatory boobs playing ambulatory boob characters.
  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    Kagera wrote: »
    I fundamentally disagree with the idea that we fund the arts 'for fun'. There is a quantifiable benefit in supporting creative works and I am not seriously believing I actually have to say that shit. Apparently humans can become mindless automatons though only thinking in practicality and rationality and I can't wait to see the utopia that blooms from it when you guys figure out how to implement it!

    You're right, I'm sure having Detroit starve and collapse in on itself is a great thing for the nation.

    Spending money on arts and sciences isn't what keeps us from spending money in places like Detroit.

    NASA and the NEA aren't causing kids to starve to death for fuck's fucking sake.

    Didn't you know that was what Oppenheimer really meant with his 'detroiter of worlds' quote.
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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary Your Dark Descent FriendRegistered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Corehealer wrote: »
    We don't know if aliens exist, or what they'll look like, or if they will be sexually compatible with us or even made of the same basic elements like carbon. They most likely won't be Orions, Twi'leks or Asari, or any other recoloured homo sapien surrogate.

    But I reserve judgement until after I've seen their equivalent of a female. I'm open minded.

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    I knew someone was going to post that when I made my post. :)
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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    Kagera wrote: »
    I fundamentally disagree with the idea that we fund the arts 'for fun'. There is a quantifiable benefit in supporting creative works and I am not seriously believing I actually have to say that shit. Apparently humans can become mindless automatons though only thinking in practicality and rationality and I can't wait to see the utopia that blooms from it when you guys figure out how to implement it!

    You're right, I'm sure having Detroit starve and collapse in on itself is a great thing for the nation.

    Spending money on arts and sciences isn't what keeps us from spending money in places like Detroit.

    NASA and the NEA aren't causing kids to starve to death for fuck's fucking sake.

    WELL THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE TO TAKE MONEY FROM

    *steps in front of defense spending, frantically motions toward nasa*

    My god, skips.

    The scales have fallen off my eyes! Hail Reagan, full of jellybeans our tax cuts are with thee.
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  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck FAK U HODGEHEG Registered User regular
    we bioengineer 200 IQ people

    they end up watching the adventure time spinoff and complaining about how school is too easy

    america sinks in to the sea

    debate and discourse 2050 overrun by smarter, more pedantic posters
  • ElldrenElldren Registered User regular
    Kagera wrote: »
    I fundamentally disagree with the idea that we fund the arts 'for fun'. There is a quantifiable benefit in supporting creative works and I am not seriously believing I actually have to say that shit. Apparently humans can become mindless automatons though only thinking in practicality and rationality and I can't wait to see the utopia that blooms from it when you guys figure out how to implement it!

    You're right, I'm sure having Detroit starve and collapse in on itself is a great thing for the nation.

    Spending money on arts and sciences isn't what keeps us from spending money in places like Detroit.

    NASA and the NEA aren't causing kids to starve to death for fuck's fucking sake.

    If anything arts spending is helping keep Detroit
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    I would settle for living on a space station if we can't do Mars
    Why? it would be miserable.

    "I'm bored. IN SPACE! WOOH!"

    it would not be miserable.
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  • Solomaxwell6Solomaxwell6 Registered User regular
    Feral is basically 100% right in this discussion.
  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    Bob Ross' Afro was grown with the tears of African children.
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  • ShivahnShivahn Registered User regular
    Ok, work time. Have fun chat folk.
  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary Your Dark Descent FriendRegistered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Also making a NW character.

    Of course the beast slider is set to maximum by default.

    go full beast

    Full is the left side right

    Because I went pretty close to that.

    For someone who's like millimeters from flat on the bar, she sure is busty.

    You're not thinking like a game developer.

    "Flat" is around D-cup, and busty is "Twice the size of your head".

    Hmm.

    They should extend both ends.

    Flat can be flat and busty can be half of the character's volume. A compromise where everyone wins.

    What is depressing is, were you to make an MMO with a bust slider that at the extreme just morphed the character into a giant ambulatory boob, the number of people that would do just that.

    In a way it's perfect.

    Ambulatory boobs playing ambulatory boob characters.

    I thought they already made one of those with Scarlet Blade.
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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    The ad slogan for Secret antiperspirant use to be "Strong enough for a man, PH Balanced for a woman."

    Then years ago they changed it to "Strong enough for a woman."

    Which I can see what they were going for, since "Strong enough for a man" implied women were weaker and didn't really need deodorant that strong.

    But in the context of the previous commercials just sounded like Secret watered down their formula because women were weaker and didn't really need deodorant that strong.

    This is the kind of stuff my brain brings up in the shower. I need a better file indexer or something.
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  • Solomaxwell6Solomaxwell6 Registered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Also making a NW character.

    Of course the beast slider is set to maximum by default.

    go full beast

    Full is the left side right

    Because I went pretty close to that.

    For someone who's like millimeters from flat on the bar, she sure is busty.

    You're not thinking like a game developer.

    "Flat" is around D-cup, and busty is "Twice the size of your head".

    Hmm.

    They should extend both ends.

    Flat can be flat and busty can be half of the character's volume. A compromise where everyone wins.

    What is depressing is, were you to make an MMO with a bust slider that at the extreme just morphed the character into a giant ambulatory boob, the number of people that would do just that.

    In a way it's perfect.

    Ambulatory boobs playing ambulatory boob characters.

    This is insensitive. Handicapped people can like giant boobs too, you know.
  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    I would settle for living on a space station if we can't do Mars
    Why? it would be miserable.

    "I'm bored. IN SPACE! WOOH!"

    it would not be miserable.
    if it's anything close to current space flight than yes, yes it would be.
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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    I like that the "art spending is irrelevant" quip caught flak from both sides. That pleases me.
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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary Your Dark Descent FriendRegistered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    I would settle for living on a space station if we can't do Mars
    Why? it would be miserable.

    "I'm bored. IN SPACE! WOOH!"

    it would not be miserable.

    Look out the window and see stars everywhere.

    Maybe make some coffee while looking at that really shiny one on the left.
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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    I fundamentally disagree with the idea that we fund the arts 'for fun'. There is a quantifiable benefit in supporting creative works and I am not seriously believing I actually have to say that shit. Apparently humans can become mindless automatons though only thinking in practicality and rationality and I can't wait to see the utopia that blooms from it when you guys figure out how to implement it!

    Meh, I don't think the government should be supporting the arts. I don't think that's really the government's role.

    I see it as a poor substitute for a decent social safety net.

    Artists shouldn't have to face starvation and homelessness - but neither should anybody else.

    Governments have supported the arts since before governments were a thing.

    So...
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  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot Registered User regular
    strong enough for a taco pit, made for a woman
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    The ad slogan for Secret antiperspirant use to be "Strong enough for a man, PH Balanced for a woman."

    Then years ago they changed it to "Strong enough for a woman."

    Which I can see what they were going for, since "Strong enough for a man" implied women were weaker and didn't really need deodorant that strong.

    But in the context of the previous commercials just sounded like Secret watered down their formula because women were weaker and didn't really need deodorant that strong.

    This is the kind of stuff my brain brings up in the shower. I need a better file indexer or something.

    I interpret it as them saying women are really damn smelly or something.
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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    I would settle for living on a space station if we can't do Mars
    Why? it would be miserable.

    "I'm bored. IN SPACE! WOOH!"

    it would not be miserable.
    if it's anything close to current space flight than yes, yes it would be.

    no you're just weak.
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  • ArchArch Trust me, I'm a scientist Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    I fundamentally disagree with the idea that we fund the arts 'for fun'. There is a quantifiable benefit in supporting creative works and I am not seriously believing I actually have to say that shit. Apparently humans can become mindless automatons though only thinking in practicality and rationality and I can't wait to see the utopia that blooms from it when you guys figure out how to implement it!

    Meh, I don't think the government should be supporting the arts. I don't think that's really the government's role.

    I see it as a poor substitute for a decent social safety net.

    Artists shouldn't have to face starvation and homelessness - but neither should anybody else.

    I guess I just don't see these two things as mutually exclusive
  • descdesc the '87 stick-up kids Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    I want more space stations.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/ISS_after_STS-124_06_2008.jpg

    I mean look at that regal motherfucker.

    this looks like shit

    it should be in the shape of a lotus or a baby's smile or something

    @desc is raging right now

    If it's a stepping stone to fucking alien girls,
  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    Feral is basically 100% right in this discussion.

    Yes if people weren't people then people wouldn't do people things.

    That's an edgy position there.
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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    supporting the arts is not a substitute for a social safety net and the idea that it is is very strange

    supporting the arts isn't about making artists not starve
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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    You go up in space. You float around some. You lose bone density and muscle mass and never really recover from it. Woo space.
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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    Like I'm not saying that the government should just be cutting George RR Martin a check every week, but "supporting the arts" and stuff is kind of a thing they've always done so I don't think "that's not the government's role" is totally accurate. The government, as an extension of The People, has a duty to facilitate (preemptive No, Not Controlling and Censoring) cultivation of culture to at least a small extent.

    Hell, it's in the constitution.
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  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    Arch wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    I fundamentally disagree with the idea that we fund the arts 'for fun'. There is a quantifiable benefit in supporting creative works and I am not seriously believing I actually have to say that shit. Apparently humans can become mindless automatons though only thinking in practicality and rationality and I can't wait to see the utopia that blooms from it when you guys figure out how to implement it!

    Meh, I don't think the government should be supporting the arts. I don't think that's really the government's role.

    I see it as a poor substitute for a decent social safety net.

    Artists shouldn't have to face starvation and homelessness - but neither should anybody else.

    I guess I just don't see these two things as mutually exclusive

    Neither do I.

    But one is made redundant by the other.
    I am comforted by Richard Dawkins’ theory of memes. Those are mental units: thoughts, ideas, gestures, notions, songs, beliefs, rhymes, ideals, teachings, sayings, phrases, clichés that move from mind to mind as genes move from body to body. After a lifetime of writing, teaching, broadcasting and telling too many jokes, I will leave behind more memes than many. They will all also eventually die, but so it goes. - Roger Ebert, I Do Not Fear Death
  • 21stCentury21stCentury Raiding Relics Everyday Registered User regular
    Alright, i'll do my sad excuse for a routine which will now include leg lifts...
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Corehealer wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    I would settle for living on a space station if we can't do Mars
    Why? it would be miserable.

    "I'm bored. IN SPACE! WOOH!"

    it would not be miserable.

    Look out the window and see stars everywhere.

    Maybe make some coffee while looking at that really shiny one on the left.

    that would take up a lot of my day

    the rest of my day would be spent looking down at earth, and space fucking
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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary Your Dark Descent FriendRegistered User regular
    Governments also gain legitimacy partly through the efforts of the artist, at least traditionally. Ancient Egypt is basically one giant art museum for the Pharaohs and their glory.

    Governments today might rely on art less for that purpose beyond the shitty ones like NK doing socialist realism propaganda, but it's still a thing.

    For me it's less of a thing because when people think video games and developing them, like I want to do with my art, they can see them as art, but not really the kind of art that would help legitimate a government or support it's policies. But maybe that will change one day, for better or worse.
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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Of course the government should support the arts.

    Municipal and provincial/state government, though.

    The best way to do it is through festivals and programs connected to those festivals or events that help artists develop and then attract tourists and patrons who spend money on tickets, snacks, merchandise, etc.

    The most obscure, esoteric gobbledygook can still generate a lot of interest and foot traffic
  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. Risk is our business.Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    I fundamentally disagree with the idea that we fund the arts 'for fun'. There is a quantifiable benefit in supporting creative works and I am not seriously believing I actually have to say that shit. Apparently humans can become mindless automatons though only thinking in practicality and rationality and I can't wait to see the utopia that blooms from it when you guys figure out how to implement it!

    Meh, I don't think the government should be supporting the arts. I don't think that's really the government's role.

    I see it as a poor substitute for a decent social safety net.

    Artists shouldn't have to face starvation and homelessness - but neither should anybody else.

    I guess I just don't see these two things as mutually exclusive

    Neither do I.

    But one is made redundant by the other.

    Why is "supporting the arts" in anyway made redundant by a strong social safety net?

    I'm not sure this isn't a false dichotomy.
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  • a5ehrena5ehren Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    The ad slogan for Secret antiperspirant use to be "Strong enough for a man, PH Balanced for a woman."

    Then years ago they changed it to "Strong enough for a woman."

    Which I can see what they were going for, since "Strong enough for a man" implied women were weaker and didn't really need deodorant that strong.

    But in the context of the previous commercials just sounded like Secret watered down their formula because women were weaker and didn't really need deodorant that strong.

    This is the kind of stuff my brain brings up in the shower. I need a better file indexer or something.

    I interpret it as them saying women are really damn smelly or something.

    I always took it the opposite way. Like "well men totally smell gross, and this shit is strong enough for them so it should totally work on your lady BO, too"
  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    Kagera wrote: »
    Feral is basically 100% right in this discussion.

    Yes if people weren't people then people wouldn't do people things.

    That's an edgy position there.

    Special pleading, bro.

    Why is it okay for you to say "people should be inspired by manned space travel!" when clearly some people are not inspired by it

    but when I say "we should be inspired by fighting poverty" when some people are not inspired by it

    I'm the one facing an intractable trait of human nature?

    I am comforted by Richard Dawkins’ theory of memes. Those are mental units: thoughts, ideas, gestures, notions, songs, beliefs, rhymes, ideals, teachings, sayings, phrases, clichés that move from mind to mind as genes move from body to body. After a lifetime of writing, teaching, broadcasting and telling too many jokes, I will leave behind more memes than many. They will all also eventually die, but so it goes. - Roger Ebert, I Do Not Fear Death
  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong and a cast of thousands Registered User regular
    Arch wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    I fundamentally disagree with the idea that we fund the arts 'for fun'. There is a quantifiable benefit in supporting creative works and I am not seriously believing I actually have to say that shit. Apparently humans can become mindless automatons though only thinking in practicality and rationality and I can't wait to see the utopia that blooms from it when you guys figure out how to implement it!

    Meh, I don't think the government should be supporting the arts. I don't think that's really the government's role.

    I see it as a poor substitute for a decent social safety net.

    Artists shouldn't have to face starvation and homelessness - but neither should anybody else.

    I guess I just don't see these two things as mutually exclusive

    He's not saying they're mutually exclusive. He's saying supporting the arts is a subset of supporting everyone, and we should be supporting everyone.
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  • ArchArch Trust me, I'm a scientist Registered User regular
    The idea that governments shouldn't support the arts seems to hinge on a large assumption, and correct me if I am wrong

    It seems to rely on the fact that there are a non-zero amount of artists who will be able to support themselves through their art

    Feral seems to wish there was a stronger social safety net for artists, and I guess for me when I read that I find the assumption that either all artists need it (which is untrue) or some non-zero amount of artists will be able to make a living off of their art.

    Which to me seems to be saying "we should take care of our artists, even if they can't support themselves through their art"

    But then that makes art into a commercial product, which I think is maybe not the point of art?

    Maybe I don't get the arguments though

    I think the government should support the arts for the same reason it should fund city beautification projects such as parks, green spaces, etc
  • Solomaxwell6Solomaxwell6 Registered User regular
    Of course the government should support the arts.

    Municipal and provincial/state government, though.

    The best way to do it is through festivals and programs connected to those festivals or events that help artists develop and then attract tourists and patrons who spend money on tickets, snacks, merchandise, etc.

    The most obscure, esoteric gobbledygook can still generate a lot of interest and foot traffic

    My artist great uncle got money that way when he was still alive. There's a tiny little art center in town, and he'd get his works on display there fairly frequently.

    That and he'd make the anti-Nazi propaganda piece for the government, but I think he got out of that game a long time ago.
  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Also 'prestige' shit like landing on the moon does things for humanity other than concrete practicals it spurs creativity and wonder and shit pragmatism never does.

    really?

    like what?

    what did a moon landing do for humanity that, say, 300 hoover dams wouldn't?

    300 Hoovber dams would ruin the world's landscape what kind of environmentalist are you.
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