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i guess i've known people who work for the sake of work - even when they're not getting paid - because they believed that it was a moral thing to do.
not all of them were protestant, of course - if the term means anything these days it's enmeshed in the american zeitgeist rather than consigned to the descendants of puritans. some of them were people who i really disagreed with politically, but i admired their work ethic and their drive to contribute. some of them were rich and some were poor.
i agree with you that the attitudes you describe are awful and poisonous. i just don't see them as necessary or inevitable outgrowths of the work ethic.
It's not bad to push yourself further, but I'd highly recommend not pushing for a raise when you haven't even been there long enough for a yearly review.
But as soon as you get the polish brass balls of awesome year award, push the fuck out of it.
That's the thing about living on your own.
You can just say "yea mom dats cool. I've gotta run talk to ya later!" And then you hang up the phone and go on about your business.
Huh. Same story, switch "football" with "baseball", "fraternity" with "high school friend" and add "hit by a drunk."
Helicopter parents are so fun, my girlfriends been struggling with her mom who lives vicariously through her and some of her life decisions she's made for me, so obv I'm biased.
Punch her in the face.
I'm not following your logic here. You're suggesting that if someone has a recent, high-end car, it isn't reasonable to assume a lower bound on their income?
I mean, there are exceptions: it could be a rental, they could be a salesman taking a demonstrator home from work, etc. but in the main a person with a recent merc is going to be reasonably well-off.
I hit a perfect spin on a wheel of fortune slot machine bonus game betting 75 cents. (Paid 750 dollars)
I wish I still had that money.
And didn't go back and lose many times that amount over the next 2 years.
Yeah, ignore her.
Haven't you only been at your current work-place for, like, a couple months?
Then I'm biased because my mama is awesome
real mad
It's also a poor indicator if it's your only datapoint.
I knew "car guys" who spent more money than I did on cars, while having the same/lower net worth.
Because that was important to them, and included their entertainment/hobby budgets and whatever.
Edit: And my 2nd hand Merc was the same price as a new affordable car. But that might just be a South Africa specific thing.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/user/Mort-ZA/
@MortNZ
http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
Tell me the car and I can tell you it's relative worth. You aren't using enough information to form an opinion and are relyimg on a heuristic instead of critical thinking.
What part of what I said makes you think I haven't known people who work hard for teh sake of working hard?
Hell, I have basically been doing the job of my supervisor because no one else has and I make 200 bucks a week.
I am saying that in America, the protestant work ethic, as a term, has led to some pretty awful shit.
Basically since the first pilgrim landed at plymouth rock.
And it was doing some horrendous stuff in England before that.
Like, I am not just throwing these things out into a vacuum. I am talking about actual stuff. The Republican view toward poor people, which really is pretty pervasive among Democrats as well, comes out of this.
Because if they worked hard or weren't stupid then they wouldn't be poor. That is where it comes from in this country. It's all of the elect/ not of the elect bs all over again.
apparently the most annoying/least fav drink for many of these bartenders to make is a LI iced tea
understandable
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This is no reason for me to doubt you getting the giant polished brass balls award is there, you manic queefer?
lawyer up
hit the gym
punch her in the face
Six months, I was planning to discuss the possibility of a raise in December (my responsibilities have expanded and changed, but that'll be the one year anniversary, so it seems wise to wait until then)
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You wanna make it even more depressing?
They probably work for the same foundation with hundreds of other mad-libdentical people.
I think we have a "winner"
#FreeScheck
#FreeSKFM
You ate a splinter?
explain yourself
you know what forget it I'll be at my mothers
*slams door*
Mercs have a much lower maintenance cost for at least the first decade of their life than other cars (unless this is also a lolSouth Africa specific thing)
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/user/Mort-ZA/
@MortNZ
http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
Well
the newsletters are probably really easy to write.
i don't think that social engineering has to be solely about incentives. some of it is just structuring systems in order to help people either make good decisions or educate them about the benefits of good decisions.
for instance, i am a big fan of public schools. we force parents to send their kids to school one way or another.
if, instead of this, we just gave every parent $6000 cash money per kid every year and hoped they'd take care of it, i suspect we would be a worse country in short order.
maybe i'm wrong! maybe all the poor need is money from the public coffers with no strings attached. but i'm dubious.
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curse you ipad
Well yeah, it's a lot more "complicated" than most and "cool" people don't order them.
#FreeScheck
#FreeSKFM
I mean, schooling and food are entirely different issues, and aside from couscous I don't think anyone is saying "just give them money, who cares".
although i can very easily see how it can be used to reinforced pre-existing judgements on the poor
Well six months isn't bad, but it would depend on the circumstances at hiring time.
...Alright man. This discussion isn't really going anywhere, so I'll just stop replying. I remain unconvinced that driving a relatively expensive automobile -- while obviously not in itself an indicator of higher-than-average SES -- is in most cases tied to a higher income. I get your 'don't judge a book by its cover' argument, and don't disagree that there are definitely people out there driving cars you wouldn't expect them to given their actual household income... but I doubt those people are anything but statistical outliers.
my girlfriend loves the wheel of fortune slot machines
those are her favorite
Which is what I'm talking about. What it has been used to do in this country over the last couple centuries.
It's a thing.